robert_e_bone
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Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWB2rOIzoSw&feature=youtu.be I am a keyboard player, and would like to write out some guitar parts that are layered and have arpeggios like what is heard in this clip, both for the picked chordal arpeggios, and also the lead tone. I have X3e, as well as Guitar Rig 5, and an American Made Strat with David Gilmore active pickups. Thanks, Bob Bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/22 16:35:45
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Bob, I would use a Fender Twin or Mesa Boogie amp, clean channel, with some pretty heavy compression and stereo chorus for the rhythm part. It is compressed pretty heavily. A lot of the effect is also produced by the droning open strings and his use of 2nd intervals... Lead part he has added some delay and over-drive and backed off the chorus. Looks like he is on the bridge pickup for the rhythm part and then switched to the Neck/Bridge position for his solo to add some more body to the sound. This link may be helpful... http://mesaboogie.com/news/2010/06/dominic-miller-sting-symphonicity-tour/
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/22 18:27:17
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yep, dominic is a boogie player (as am i) and that typical "MARK 3" boogie setting on clean, with a compressor, will get you there.
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robert_e_bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/22 23:19:17
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Thank you both SO much. A friend of mine that I used to be in a band with also played a Mesa Boogie, and he had that same kind of sound - I loved it 30 years ago, and still do. I will put the info to good use, Bob Bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/24 09:58:08
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chorus, reverb and a clean channel of a tube amp such as boogie...
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robert_e_bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/24 12:18:45
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Thanks soooo much, guys. Many moons ago my guitar player had a Mesa with that kind of sound, and it has haunted me ever since. I will be moving some gear around in the studio today, and then I will sit down and craft up something based on the guidance you guys have provided above. :) Bob Bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/25 17:35:38
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Yeah those cluster chords go a long ways to making that sound. Any notes a tone or half tone apart sustained together will add to the chorus effect. I like the sound of cluster chords so much that I've stretched the hell out of my fingers playing them over the years
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/26 11:45:42
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Don't discount the tone from a rosewood fingerboard either... little things add up... I notice in the lead he's changing pickups throughout as well...
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/27 11:11:20
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sharke Yeah those cluster chords go a long ways to making that sound. Any notes a tone or half tone apart sustained together will add to the chorus effect. I like the sound of cluster chords so much that I've stretched the hell out of my fingers playing them over the years
Good point - I happen to be 6'9" (played basketball in a bunch of countries, back in the day), and I have really big Holdsworth-sized hands. When I used to play guitar on some songs in an original band I was in, I used to voice chords with REALLY wide intervals, as well as lots of 2nd's and such, where having big hands was essential. There were chords I could play that most folks couldn't, and we had a pretty good following and guitar players used to try to figure out what in the world I was playing - because they couldn't reach the same notes. Hee hee Bob Bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/27 23:20:56
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robert_e_bone
sharke Yeah those cluster chords go a long ways to making that sound. Any notes a tone or half tone apart sustained together will add to the chorus effect. I like the sound of cluster chords so much that I've stretched the hell out of my fingers playing them over the years
Good point - I happen to be 6'9" (played basketball in a bunch of countries, back in the day), and I have really big Holdsworth-sized hands. When I used to play guitar on some songs in an original band I was in, I used to voice chords with REALLY wide intervals, as well as lots of 2nd's and such, where having big hands was essential. There were chords I could play that most folks couldn't, and we had a pretty good following and guitar players used to try to figure out what in the world I was playing - because they couldn't reach the same notes. Hee hee Bob Bone You learn something new about forum members every day. I had no idea you were a giant I'm only 5"10 but nonetheless I have hands like spades and pretty long fingers. Years of playing Bach fugues and other music not written for guitar has pretty much contorted and stretched my fingers into a state in which I can finger pretty much anything you throw at me, even if I have to use knuckles and sides of fingers etc. It's amazing how much your fretting fingers stretch - my left hand digits are a good half an inch longer than my right. However short, stubby fingers are no obstacle for a determined player, just look at the late Danny Gatton.
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/28 01:34:13
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I can go from a low E string 1st fret (F), to a high E string 7th fret. Bwa ha ha. :) Too bad I play solos at the speed most people tune up. (I am good with chords, but that's about it) Bob Bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/28 12:34:20
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Nope - NOT using my thumbs. 1st finger is on the 1st fret low E string to play the F, and little finger is on 7th fret on high E string. Na na na na boo boo :) Bob Bone
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Re: Can someone explain how I might approximate the guitar tone in this clip?
2015/01/28 23:47:38
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robert_e_bone I can go from a low E string 1st fret (F), to a high E string 7th fret. Bwa ha ha. :) Too bad I play solos at the speed most people tune up. (I am good with chords, but that's about it) Bob Bone
I can just about do that, although my pinky is right in front of the fret. I can definitely go from 1st to 6th very comfortably though.
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