Can you have too many reverbs?

Which ones are you leaning towards at the moment Mike?

I've been demo-ing the Exponential Audio stuff the past week.

It has made me rethink my thoughts about convolution reverbs.


best regards,
mike

I bought Breeze and B2 and thought "that's that", and then this new company exponential audio comes along....

carl and jim roseberry both say these are the best algo reverbs they have heard.

And Lexcion PCM has taken a massive price cut too and is affordable!

I'm telling myself to be satisfied with what I have. The new ones don't really sound that much better to justify more dollars.

It's a funny little world when you look thru reverb topics at gearslutz and kvr etc and see the programmers themselves wading into each others threads. There seems to be a far amount of snippiness between them. 

When you can't hear anything BUT the reverb, then you might have too much.

(I use my TC Electronics G-Force when playing guitar and the stuff from Waves for recording - that's enough for me for now.)

Quantum Leap Spaces Convolution Reverb. I love it and probably use it too much! But it sounds good on just about anything.

Rain: Anyone messed w/ the NI reverbs?

I've got both the RC24 and 48. Haven't used the 48 yet  (much) but I've been putting the 24 on acoustic guitars and absolutely loving it...to the point of opening up older projects and remixing.

These two reverbs were among the reasons I upgraded Komplete recently.

Regards,

For $50 you cannot beat Valhalla (IMO).

MakeShift


I have been trying to ween back my addiction to plugs.  I have n't bought any until just last week when I finally could n't stand it any more and bought  the Scaffham S-Gear amp sim.  Valhalla has been on my radar for a long time.  I am afraid to even demo it, or I will want it.


Does any one have a greater preference when I do decide to pull the trigger..V Room or VVV?

I don't have many plug ins.


I'm getting a new hot rod system and the one thing I have been looking forward to is trying the latest greatest digital reverbs.

I'm actually looking forward to loading even fewer EQs, Compressors, etc. on this new system.

The latest digi reverbs seem to be the only thing really interesting or compelling to me.


In the interview I mentioned you get to hear Michael Carnes explain that it was a big ah-hah moment for him when he realized that his algorithms work even better on Native CPUs than dedicated dsp. I get the sense that there is going to be a period of improvement and exploitation that we will get to enjoy.


best regards,
mike

 

Can you have too many reverbs?

 
 
Why yes. Yes you can.
 
'8' is exactly the absolute perfect number of reverbs to have.
 
'9' would be a tad excessive. '10' is just greedy and '11' would be completely showing off.
 
On the other hand, '7' might be not quite enough.
 
Yes, indeedy-doody for sure, '8' is definitely the right amount of reverberations to be in possession of.
 
But don't use them all at once on the same track.
 
Oh no.
 
That would probably sound a bit echoey.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Danny Danzi

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Some free ones are ok, but your best bet is to pay for a library. I like Pristine Space as my impulse loader or the Waves IR's.
 
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-Danny

This is the key with convo processors, the real differences are in the Impulses you use, if you have crap impulses the results will be rubbish, and it's worth spending the money on a decent library if you can.
 
The Numerical Sound guy has some excellent stuff he did for VSL he also worked on the Alicia Keys Kontakt library.  Not cheap, over-priced perhaps but with libraries you'll get what you pay for.
 
Most of the newer convolution reverbs have turned into hybrids these days I guess because convolution only deals with the time constant aspects of the tail which gives that sense of lacking by itself and I'm not convinced by one particular verb doing what I want which is why I keep the convolution processing aspect simple (and free) and setup the chain to do the filtering and modulation myself.
 
If I had the money though I'd probably just plump for the Waves IR-1 for the convolution stuff and be done with it.
 
Oh, and there's some good material here if you want some impulse stuff to mess with.
 
http://www.openairlib.net/
 
The St Magaret's church set particularly is fantastically done with lots of mic positions, they are mostly B-Format files so if you are clever when converting to stereo you can have your impulses facing whatever way you like from whatever position you want in the room.
 
Here, they used these impulses to create a hybrid 3 dimensional auralization of the space computed along with the visual animation.  Check the video tab.
 
http://www.openairlib.net/auralizationdb/content/st-margarets-church-national-centre-early-music

How about Dr. Barry Blesser's web page? 

He has a selection of lectures on mp3 available3 here:

http://www.blesser.net/spacesSpeak.html

I'll be listening to these today. :-)

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