kayekrebs
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Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
I have a new computer with Windows 7 and Sonar 8.5. I'm unable to open most buns and/or wrk files that I made on my old computer with XP and Sonar 8.5. I can't open files from my hard drive, my Segate backup or flash drives. I get this message: Could not open file. The file may be damaged or incompatible with this version of Sonar." (it's the same version) I can't open in safe mode either.
Today I went to my working partner's home who has these same files on his computer, (also Windows 7 and Sonar 8.5). Although we did these works when we both had XP, his are loading fine on Windows 7. I brought his copies home and they will not open here. So the files are not corrupt, it must be Sonar. Should I reload Sonar......everything new I do is just fine........it's just the old stuff which I happen to need right now (sigh). One more thing, it may be a coincidence, but these files all contain VSTs from Goliath. (Goliath VSTs are working in new projects.)
Thanks for any ideas you might have.
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/15 19:15:33
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bun (bundles) files are generally not deemed to be very reliable.
I would suggest that you open the bun file(s) on your friend's computer, save the project as a cwp along with the associated audio files and copy those over to your computer.
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kayekrebs
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/15 23:10:10
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I tried his cwp projects with no audio, no luck. I also disovered a few I can open with VSTs (just a few tracks of VSTs, not loaded like some of the others.) I still can't figure out why I could open a few of these projets, but not most of them. I reloaded Sonar 8.5 and got the same result.
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/15 23:34:12
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CWP files don't contain any audio. The audio is stored in a separate file so in order to use the CWP file, you need the CWP file and the audio files.
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/15 23:56:02
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Did you try saving from partners as a CWB file?
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kayekrebs
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/16 10:59:06
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Yes, I know you need a bun to capture the audio, or bring the audio file with the cwp. I can't open the buns. But most of these files are MIDI, the only audio being a mix or maybe a few MIDI tracks I recorded to add an effect. So, I've also tried opening as a cwp project, skipping all audio, no luck. I have two projects from 8.5 I can open. I guess today I have to try to compare those two to the rest to figure out why they open. I loaded Sonar 6 last night and discovered I can open everything except, of course, 8.5. I haven't been able to open old 6 files either.
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/16 11:56:24
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SO if these files open and play just fine on an other computer there should be no problem. Your problem is the way Sonar can scatter stuff all over your hard drive. I never use Sonar's file system for that reason. Using windows, create a folder, in your case I would use a exterior storage device as the location. This is so simple... Now open the project on the other computer. It's all there? It plays fine? Perform a "SAVE AS" and point it to the new folder on the back up drive. check the " copy all audio" box Save as a " CWP " not any other format. There you go, If that won't open on ANY version of Sonar I will be amazed. A few things to watch are 32 bit and 64 bit systems. Different interfaces with mismatched clock rates. I transfer songs between 3 different computers all the time. The main thing is before you even hit record to put the project in a folder where you want it to be. You can set this in the folder options too. Other wise Sonar will save your CWP file in a different location than the audio. Or worse, all your audio from dozens of songs are mixed together in one folder. This is basic Windows folder and file management that has been the same for a long time now. Just hitting save in any software without knowing where it is going is foolish. "SAVE AS" is your friend.
post edited by Cactus Music - 2013/01/16 12:02:01
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kayekrebs
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/16 16:33:38
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Thanks. I will try that tomorrow. But you raise an issue that hadn't occurred to me: all these files were made in 32bit and I am now in 64. However, I think my partner has also switched to 64 with Windows 7.
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/16 21:14:40
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32 or 64 bit shouldn't matter. Try opening the CWB file in safe mode... Hold down the shift key while clicking on File-Open.
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/17 07:33:01
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I have 8.5 PE and recently bought a new computer...I went from XP to Win7...Went from 32bit to 64bit. I was afraid the same exact thing was going to happen to me, but so far so good. But, I've always kept these as cwp files.
I'm a maroon when it comes to computers (or everything else too, if you asked my father) so I really can't offer anything but my mojo. I hope you get this worked out.
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kayekrebs
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/24 14:21:54
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Thanks to you and everyone else who tried to help me. I have tried everything and still can't open those 8.5 files. (sigh)
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daveny5
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/01/25 13:37:25
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Well, if your friend can open them on his computer, all is not lost.
How are you trying to transfer them to your computer?
He can load the CWB, but save as a CWP and use Per Project Folders so you will get a folder that contains the project in CWP format and the audio in a subfolder under the main folder. You should be able to transport them to your computer that way.
As for the Goliath plug-ins, if you open the project in safe mode, it should ask you if you want to bypass the plug-ins. If that works, then you could always add the plug-ins back in.
As for the WRK files, those must be very old because Sonar hasn't used that format in a long time. They switched to CWP formats years ago. However, most of my old WRKs can open, but a few could not. I suggest loading any WRKs you can and then save as CWPs.
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2013/02/10 13:17:32
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The problem is in mono and stereo waves in the same project. Computers that uses windows 7 any version of Sonar will have this problem. You can not open a file bundle (bun) old or new it has mono and stereo waves within it. According to an article I read, it seems that windows 7 has a incompatilidade with RIFF files already reported to microsoft. Solution: You need a computer to hand with good old windows xp to open these files. Bye Mamadoc - Brazil
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Re:Can't Open Sonar Files with New Computer
2015/02/22 11:51:05
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HELP! Sonar X3 freezes when I try to load my old Cakewalk Home Studio 9 .wrk or .bun files. I have about 200 songs to work on. If us old cakewalk users can't load our old projects, why should we stick with Cakewalk products? This is a real disappointment if it can't be worked out. What the heck should I do???
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