Can't configure Guitar Rig as a synth

Well, I managed to get it to work, although I'm not sure why. 

I'm running X2 64-bit. So I went and deleted Guitar Rig's 32-bit .dll. And after going through the above again, I can finally see it registered as a synth. 

So what gives - was X2 showing me the 32-bit version of Guitar Rig all this time? 

Well, having solved one problem, I've just run into a whole new set. 

First of all, even though I now have Guitar Rig configured as a synth, the MIDI learn is still not working. It works fine in standalone version - I just right click on a knob, select MIDI learn, and turn a knob on my controller. Thus, control is achieved. But nothing happens when I try this within Sonar. 

Even worse, I now discovered the following behavior:

I had Guitar Rig configured as an effect in a ProChannel FX Chain on another synth track. Now that I've reconfigured Guitar Rig as a synth in Sonar, if I try to open the synth that's on that track, it immediately disappears and is replaced with Guitar Rig instead (with no effects loaded). I figure this is some kind of weirdness because I had added GR to the FX Chain as an effect, and now it's not available as an effect.

So OK, I thought, I'll just delete GR from the FX Chain and insert it in the FX bin instead (since you cannot insert a synth in an FX chain). However, I'm getting barely any volume through it now, unless I set the ProChannel to "Post." In fact without the ProChannel turned on and set to Post, there is hardly any input going into Guitar Rig in the FX Bin. 

I know this is all awkward to describe, but does anyone have the slightest idea what's going on here?  

Yep. Why would I separate the tracks? All I'm trying to do is use the knobs on my controller to record automation in the automation lanes. 

Split out the tracks. I do not use MIDI to control Guitar Rig but I just fumbled around with it a bit using separate MIDI and audio tracks instead of an instrument track. Lacking a keyboard controller, i could control Guitar Rig effects from another MIDI track. I was suggesting not using instrument tracks because they sometimes have some odd behavior. The original way CW handled soft synths was with separate MIDI and audio tracks.

Yea, I have always drawn my automation. But it was a good experience for me to investigate how the MIDI stuff works.

sharke

Hmm, so I have to set up a separate MIDI track to record my Guitar Rig automation. Interesting. I'm not sure how this would work with multiple instances of Guitar Rig on multiple tracks, though. 
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One Midi track per instance should work. It would just be a case of routing the midi track to the correct instance, just like haveing multiple instances of any soft synth. 
 

I use GR 5 configured as a synth all the time, so that I can use both a Behringer FCB 1010 midi pedal board and the controls on my Axiom Pro 61 controller to control GR 5 knobs and wah wah and what not.

I would agree with trying to gauge effect of splitting those simple instrument tracks out, just to see if that helps.

I will try to set up a test of all of what you are trying to do, and will psot back with my results, 

Bob Bone

do you have it in a normal fx bin or a pc fx bin??