Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface.

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2016/09/28 23:13:57 (permalink)

Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface.

Hello guys.
 
Just bought a Motor 49 keyboard controller from Berhinger. I've read the manual / quickstart guides for it and checked back a couple of chapters in Sonar's manual to configure control surfaces. No success... time wasted : over two hours... Oh! I can play the keyboards and trigger a synth with it, fine... but as for the control surface aspect of that product, nothing works out of the box.  
 
I did a MIDI LEARN on a track's fader. When moving the linked fader on the hardware, SONAR'S fader follows all right... but moving SONAR's fader does not make the MOTOR 49's move.
 
Opened up LIVE LITE 9 to do a comparison of my "mackie control setup procedure" with another DAW and everything was literally up and running in less time than it took me to write down this post. (Keyboard, faders, rotaries, bi-directional interaction between the DAW and the controller... Only limitation LIVE LITE is imposing me is that I can only work with 4 tracks... So I cannot really test the system with a high number of tracks.) 
 
Does anybody have a configuring tip to share? The only thing I can see here that is really suspicious is the the ACT module on the control bar is always indicating "CONNECTING"... not sure what to think of that yet as I am still looking for information about this. 

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    azslow3
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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2016/09/29 06:16:54 (permalink)

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2016/10/01 14:22:47 (permalink)
    Thank you Azslow3.
     
    I've read some information in those threads... i'm still digging in the data they provide. I'll give it a try this week-end, hopefully!

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2016/10/02 01:12:42 (permalink)
    I downloaded the AZCTRL_0_5rb2 and followed the instructions of the quickstart guide. I've configured the first fader as recommended. 
     
    Does not seem to work. Fader in SONAR jumps to its maximum value as soon as I touch the hardware. 
     
    downloaded the HUI preset and tried it... does not seem to help either. 
     
    Any tips? Going back to some reading... 

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2016/10/04 07:14:03 (permalink)
    I have answered in PM, but just for clarity I was thought to mention the part of the thread started with: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3449057
    So moded MackieControl plug-in, not AZ Controller.

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2016/10/04 23:43:50 (permalink)
    Thanks for your answer, Azslow!
     
    I had seen that post, but I was not sure what to make out of that "moded" word... even if my English is not too bad I had to google it up...
     
    Anyways, I'll Download the files sometimes tomorrow and hopefully I'll find out in what folder I should be pasting the DLL's

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2016/10/16 09:56:04 (permalink)
    Hello again!
     
    Just to let you know that I finally got my configs right using the new MackieControl DLL by Azslow3. Disabled the handshake option and now I have what I basically need ... (though I have not tried bank switching with more than 8 tracks... i'll try it soon)
     
    Cheers.

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2017/07/14 14:56:00 (permalink)
    I just bought a Behringer Motor 49 and sadly realize just how "unhappy" it is with Sonar as its partner.
     
    To get a proper control surface and integration between Sonar and Motor, do I have to use both the modified "MackieControl.dll" and the "azctrl_0_5r5b366" ?
     
    I wonder why Behringer doesn't design a file for download to integrate Sonar? I would think that the Sonar user base is large enough to justify the task?
     
    Pardon my confusion, but I am definitely not the only one in this situation!
     
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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2017/07/14 15:08:22 (permalink)
    Hi,
    I too have had my share of woes with controllers.
    Have a look around here;

    http://www.azslow.com

    This guy is amazing. Writes his own programs and they work! He's been a tremendous help to me.
    Best of luck

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2017/07/14 15:50:09 (permalink)
    Many thanks, BassRocket. I am indeed aware of the site... it's awesome.
    That's where I got the  "azctrl_0_5r5b366" file.
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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2017/07/14 19:45:53 (permalink)
    You need MackieControl.dll (and ini). NOT azctrl (at least till I update Mackie preset in it).
    Sorry for confusion
     
    The only problem of Motör is not implemented Mackie handshake. That is why you need moded plug-in version (with special flag to ignore that handshake). Behringer does not need to produce special software for Sonar, they just have to update the firmware of Motör to support the handshake (and they know how to do this correctly since X-Touch works with stock plug-in).

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2017/07/15 18:36:07 (permalink)
    Azslow3,
    Thank you for your vast knowledge and commitment to our great hobby!
    And I appreciate your clarification to my previous posting. 
     
    I downloaded the MackieControl.dll, but where can I find .ini file that is also needed?
     
    Cheers
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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2017/07/15 23:12:08 (permalink)
    fpcross
    I downloaded the MackieControl.dll, but where can I find .ini file that is also needed?

    Strictly speaking it is not needed. But with it you can get proper mapping for ProChannel EQ/Compressors in corresponding Mackie mode (not sure Motör can switch into these modes, probably not).
     http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,341.0.html has direct link to MackieControl.ini (step 6).
     

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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2017/07/16 16:55:38 (permalink)
    Great! Thanks Azslow3
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    Re: Cannot configure a MOTOR 49 keyboard / control surface. 2019/01/03 00:06:26 (permalink)
    Thank you Azslow3, I have been pulling out my hair for 3 days messin with my motor 49, FINALLY I can use the bloody thing, I am old and have been recording since I was 11 years old, not long into the early 70s and I love MIDI. have used it for years but the one thing was the programing and I HATE stringing code....... took me that long to find your posts.. Again a BIG thank you..
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