Can't Get Harmonizer To Work [FIXED]

OK. Not much information to go on, but I'll try.

What is the harmoniser?

Why do you have the controller keyboard (if that's what it is) connected to both the PC via USB and to the EIE's MIDI in? Does the controller receive/send MIDI over that USB cable or audio?

The synth. Is it meant to be passing MIDI from the EIE through to the harmoniser? If so is it correctly configured to do this? Usually MIDI through is sent from a MIDI Thru connection, not MIDI out, though there are exceptions.

Sonar can handle audio and MIDI at the same time with no problems at all.

I suspect you might have a routing problem with the way the hardware is connected and possibly within Sonar as well but without more information I can't tell.

It's after midnight, so I'll not go into a lot of detail.
 
All the synth module does is send MIDI data to the harmonizer. It doesn't send "music." That data is then interpreted by the harmonizer as vocal parts. So when you sing into the mic, it makes your voice sound like a 4-part singing group. The synth is getting its info from Sonar. (The keyboard you see isn't involved in any of this.) Now if I plug the keyboard into the harmonizer and play manual chords, then it works fine. But for complicated harmonies that are jumping all over the place, it isn't practical. The hands-off method, letting Sonar do all the heavy lifting, is preferred.
 
The MIDI OUT is actually MIDI THRU. Sorry. I pulled out a lot hair figuring that one out years ago.
 
 

Thanks for the info, Bob. I got to thinking the same thing about the synth module's redundancy. Getting used to this new way of recording is unfamiliar territory. (I'm 62 and prefer the old TEAC 8-track reel-to-reel brutes.) Still, I'm fairly tech savvy.
 
I will check your suggestions. If I can get rid of that synth module, I'll gladly do so. I'll take it out of the chain, route the AKAI interface MIDI out to the harmonizer, and see what happens.  The harmonizer is set to receive on MIDI channel 1. Now, I just have to figure out how to tell Sonar where to put the harmonizer audio output flow. But my wife is glaring at me and I have to take my daughter to school.

Right. Try this.

Connect the EIE MIDI out to the harmoniser MIDI in.

Assuming you have installed the driver for the EIE if you open Sonar's preferences and look under the MIDI section you should see the EIEs MIDI in and out ports listed. Make sure they are ticked. If you need to use the controller keyboard at all then install its drivers and again tick the relevant boxes. Unless it is very, very unusual the controller almost certainly only needs to be connected by USB, not a MIDI cable as well.

Under preferences/project there are other MIDI settings to do with sending MIDI clock. If the harmoniser needs to receive clock switch those preferences on.

Open a new project and insert a MIDI track. In the track inspector view (left side of the screen by default) there are pull-down menus for MIDI input and output. Set the output to the EIE MIDI and the input to the keyboard if you need to use it to record MIDI parts. You can write the MIDI in the piano roll, step sequencer and notation views as well. Set that MIDI channel to the same channel as the harmoniser.

Try a few notes an the keyboard if connected. You should see the meter on the MIDI track respond, the dreen bar showing velocity and a red light above which blinks when the channel receives MIDI. If not try arming the track for record and try a few more notes.

Record or edit in some MIDI, play it back and see what happens. With any luck that will work, unless I've forgotten something.

On the audio side of things you need to insert an audio track and point its inputs at whichever EIE sockets the harmoniser is plugged in to, and the teack should output to the master bus. You may need to go into the preferences audio settings to enable the EIE inputs and outputs.

The "getting started" section in Sonar help is a good way to work through the basics of getting Sonar up and running, though it is a little sparse regarding the MIDI hardware side of things.

@konradh: Yepper. It's a TC-Helicon Voice Prism Plus (with the extra card). A month after I bought it ($1,000) it became a "discontinued" item. But it's pretty reliable.
 
I have the Komplete 9 Ultimate. And while it has a bunch of classic pianos, my Roland MGS-64's piano sound is superior. I'll figure out a way to keep it in thar.

YAY - that's some GREAT news.
 
I REALLY like your diagrams, by the way.  What did you make them with?
 
Bob Bone