Kalle Rantaaho

Then again, how could she select/change instruments in Sound Center (as I understand she's done) and hear the changes, if it's actually Wavetable synth she's using. 

That's a very good question, Kalle.
The more I look at it, that whole project raises some questions.
Which track is actually Sound Center?
Was it inserted as a Simple Instrument Track?
Is there more than one instance?
How are tracks 19 through 25 configured?
Has Sound Center been inserted in the FX bin of a normal audio track?( I have discovered that this does not give the freeze option).
Check this out:


Sound Center 1 was inserted via the Insert>Softsynth dialogue.
Sound Center 2 was inserted in the FX bin of a normal audio track. 
It's possible that you actually do have the freeze option, although LE only supports a limited number of soft synths, so it's hard to say how much that will really help you.


Sara, can you give us more detail on exactly what you have done?
ie, how are you inserting Sound Center? How are you selecting the sounds?
Please expand those tracks so you can see what they are really doing.
I agree with Kalle, you have been great through this process. Let's bring this home.

hello thankyou very much for your replies! I was not sure if i have/will answer all your questions well. So it took me a while(finding the right software and resolution etc) but i made a short video of my screen. In this video you see my project, i hide all the other tracks and you see only the MIDI the soft synth and the new audio track. The midi track i want to bounce. You see play back the song (no audio) and after that bouncing it.. Maybe this helps.. the link is: http://www.youtube.com/wa...cWYLU&feature=youtu.be

Are you using Cakewalk SoundCenter in the video or a synth called Piano Synth?
 
 
Try camstudio; free and works pretty well. For me.

@robert  post#16 says how I have inserted the soft synth 

I think I see the problem.
It appears like your supposed synth track (19) is a MIDI track. It shouldn't have parameters listed like Velocity, Channel, Patch, etc. It should look like an audio track, like this:
 

 
MIDI track on top; synth track below that.
On the right of a MIDI track, the level is listed in velocity; in an audio track the level is listed in decibels.

Yes, track 19 is a Simple Instrument Track. 19 through 25 are all Simple Instrument Tracks.
This is probably not the best choice in this scenario.
When inserting the synth (post #16), select First Synth Audio Output instead.

Since the synths are already inserted as SITs, you can split them into separate MIDI/Audio tracks. This will make it much easier to follow your signal path.
Right click in the Track Pane of track 19.
Select Split Instrument Track from the dropdown menu.
Track 19 will change into a normal MIDI track, and a new Synth Audio Track will be created(track 20).
At this point, you have several options.
The easiest will be to drag the MIDI clip from track 5 to track 19.
Select tracks 19 and 20, and try to bounce to a NEW track. You don't need to create an audio track first.
That should work.

Now, the big question. What caused the silent bounce?
I'm not entirely sure, but I have been able to recreate it.
It seems to be related to that bank/patch showing in track 5. The patch shown, Mini Piano (hall), is actually from SC, but it is displayes as if it were a General MIDI patch. This is not normal behavior for Sound Center.
It showed up because the track was originally associated with a GM synth. In my case, it was the MS Wavetable Synth.
After changing the output to Sound Center, it seems that the signal path got confused.
The synth played fine, but the bounce routine did not work properly.
I changed the patch setting to None, and was able to get a good bounce.

In the view below, track 4 is a Simple Instrument Track.
Track 6 is a MIDI track with the odd patch setting.
Track 8 is a MIDI track with normal Sound Center behavior.
Note: Tracks 7 and 8 were inserted by selecting MIDI Source Track and First Synth Audio Output. The MIDI clip was copied to this track.
Track 9 is the silent bounce created when track 6 was selected along with SC2.
Track 10 is a good bounce from tracks 7 and 8.
Sorry for such a long post, but this is a very strange situation.

Yeah, Kalle, that's why I asked about the output of the MIDI track being 'piano synth', or whatever it was.
She said she renamed it.
I know you can rename tracks and buses; some synths allow you to rename patches, but rename a synth?
Anyway, I paid closer attention to the video and it was 2 or 3 viewings before the light went off.
Hey! That's a MIDI track!
 

Did you try changing the patch in the track header of the MIDI track to "None" as RobertB had to do to get the bounce work?

SIT= Simple Instrument Track.

You seem to be doing everything correctly, as far as I can see. The strange thing in your latest video is that there is no response in the synths audio track when the midi is playing (I assume the silence is in your PC, too, not only in Youtube?).

One thing to try is checking the MIDI channels. I don't know if you can adjust Midi Channel in SoundCenter, but the MIDI track CH  should be set to the same number that SoundCenter is using.

I don't know enough about different features of MIDI files themselves, as this MIDI is imported. The more knowledgeable forumites perhaps can show some light there.
Maybe you might be able to drop off the possible extra commands included in the MIDI by opening
Piano Roll View and copying the notes there, instead of copying the whole clip (???)

Try exactly what you did in your latest video, but instead of pasting the MIDI file, insert or play (if you have a MIDI keyboard) some notes in the piano roll to see if you can hear and bounce them. If you can, the solution is in the imported MIDI itself.

As I said, you seem to be doing everything correctly, but please confirm, that exactluy this same procedure with EZDrummer gives you sound and bounce (to be sure your soundcard settings are OK).

The solution is in the imported MIDI file, when I make some notes with my mouse in the PRV i get a bounce with sound.

Well, I don't have SC on this computer, so I can't check that right away.
I'll do that when I play with my music computer later...

Sara95


@ Greg what is the patch in the SC mixer window? I did everything you said I think but also no playback on the soft synth so also silent bounce

I made a little video, no sound.
Import MIDI, insert soft synth (Sound Center).
Select Type, Subtype and double-click the Program.
Select MIDI track and synth track while holding down the computer keyboard's Ctrl key.
Edit>Bounce, then File>Export. Of course, you don't have to bounce to export. I could just as easily exported the synth track audio directly to my Audio Files folder.
Hope it works. I've never done the video thing and I don't know if you have to have a Photobucket account to see it. It's free, though.
 
http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg13/GregFields/?action=view&current=Beginning2.mp4