John6528
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Can't record audiophile 192
Can't record with a microphone. Just tried for first time. Sound comes out of the speakers but not into the software whether sonar or anything else. Obviously I got something set up wrong.
BUT... it records midi fine in Sonar. I have external midi device with audio output to the 192's input. I can click solo on that midi track, record on an audio track, and it works just dandy.... no sweat. So can't understand why puting mic to 192's input nothing happens.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 18:16:17
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midi is just data, tho, not audio.
I'm not sure what your last paragraph is saying that's relevant - or is that just a rant about murphy's law in general?
ok - on the 192, are you inputint the mic directly into the 192 input? it needs a preamp, tho, so if you aren't running thru a preamp then you're not going to get enough volume and if it's a condenser mic you won't get anything because there's no phantom power.
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John6528
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 18:32:27
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Yeah... the board stuff was just a rant.
no... I am running the audio out of the midi not the midi data.
I have a pre-amp in the form of a Behringer Xenyx 502 mixer. Thing is... I run the midi audio through that too. I just plugged the mic into another mixer input. I run all inputs through the Behringer mixer then into the audiophile inputs.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 19:13:13
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John - I don't understand.
no... I am running the audio out of the midi not the midi data.
that is a misnomer. MIDI is data only - it has no "audio out." are you maybe saying you're running audio output of a hardware synth? like your yamaha keyboard? if so, just please understand that it's not MIDI - MIDI is only the data that comes from the MIDI output of the keyboard, the audio output is AUDIO, not "MIDI AUDIO" you'll need to give me a better picture of your mixer. I know what the 502 is, so just tell me which number input your running what into and how do you have the output connected to the 192? main outs? please remember we can't see what you see, you'll need to give us as much information as possible about how you have things actually connected.
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johnnyV
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 20:50:43
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This is confusing? is it not! How the heck did you manage to plug a MIDI cable into a Audio jack? , that's what I need to know! :) You have an odd assortment of interfaces but it should work. The MIDI ( as Beagle stated) is just data , there is absolutely no sound until a device such as a synthesizer generates the sound. Might be what you mean is the SOUND from your keyboard, That is not MIDI. So what I can figure you are doing by the description is you have plugged the audio outputs of a Yamaha keyboard into a mixer. The mixer goes to your M audio delta interface which is then recognized by Sonar. So then you plugged a mike into the same mixer and there is no sound?? I can only think that you have not set your channel strip correctly or as Beagle says your using a Phantom powered mike and did not turn it on., can you hear the mike in the headphones of the mixer? Channel Mute button? nothing plugged into the insert jack?
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:05:47
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I don't get why people have to overclock their computer. It just causes you to have problems you can't diagnose and potentially damages your equipment for a small boost in performance you probably will never notice.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:14:15
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Ok forget the comment about a channel strip! That's beyond the scope of this little guy.. That's odd, it says it has phantom power but I looked at all the pictures of it and I don't see a switch?? . weird, so it must be on all the time ! so that rules that out. I hope you figured out that you can't use both the XLR and the line in at the same time. That will kill the mike. They sure are cute! I've got the 1204 and It's an amazingly good little mixer for the price. The non Xenyx pre amps had a bad rep. 
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:28:02
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From the Behringer info page = State-of-the-art, phantom powered XENYX Mic Preamp comparable to stand-alone boutique preamps ! Ok but here's the spec sheet which has no mention of phantom power! So you are hooped if your mike needs it. . Don't you just love false advertising, what was that thread in the coffee house I just read? 
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:29:27
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the 502 does not have phantom power. if he's using a condenser it won't work. but he hasn't given us the mic model.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:29:58
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:31:42
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Ya I just figured that out too.
I was looking into getting one of these for a friend of mine for his church, they only have a podium mike and a CD deck.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:50:32
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I believe the earlier model of the 502 did not have phantom power, but the newer model does.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 21:51:43
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the 802 has phantom power.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/27 22:05:49
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The 502 does not have phantom power. Never did. The 802 has phantom power, and somewhat more sophisticated routing. I think that may be the crux of the biscuit.
John, what mic are you using? If it's a condenser, it won't work with the 502.
You say you are getting sound from the speakers. Is this from the mic?
When you answer Beagle's question, tell us where everything is connected to the mixer and the 192. Everything. Be specific.
Also tell us your pan, balance, and gain settings on the 502.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/28 10:50:35
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Beagle
John - I don't understand.
no... I am running the audio out of the midi not the midi data.
that is a misnomer.
I have an old Alesis Nanosynth. I Run midi data from Sonar to Nanosynth. Audio out from Nanosynth to Behringer and then to audio in on the 192. Sorry bout the confusion. When I say "Midi" I should say midi device I guess which has both audio and midi outs.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/28 10:53:09
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daveny5
I don't get why people have to overclock their computer. It just causes you to have problems you can't diagnose and potentially damages your equipment for a small boost in performance you probably will never notice.
I just bought memory. The memory sort of automatically overclocked the board. I cut back the overclock from 1600 to 1330. Might cut it back more. The extra speed doesn't help me. John
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/28 10:58:07
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Beagle
the 502 does not have phantom power. if he's using a condenser it won't work. but he hasn't given us the mic model.
It's a radio schack Super-Cardioid dynamic microphone 33-128. I am just recording my grandchildren singing. I don't usually record at all. John
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/28 11:08:14
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RobertB
The 502 does not have phantom power. Never did. The 802 has phantom power, and somewhat more sophisticated routing. I think that may be the crux of the biscuit.
John, what mic are you using? If it's a condenser, it won't work with the 502.
You say you are getting sound from the speakers. Is this from the mic?
When you answer Beagle's question, tell us where everything is connected to the mixer and the 192. Everything. Be specific.
Also tell us your pan, balance, and gain settings on the 502.
Yes... when I speak into the mic it comes out loud and clear on the speakers. I have keyboard (audio) and nanosynth (audioi) to the 502 and from there to the 192 ins. keyboard to in 2/3, Nanosynth to in 3/4. Then plugged mic into mike preamp. There is a trim and volume on the mic input. Turn the trim all the way up and the volume 50%. Main mix volume at about 60%. Keyboard midi and nonsynth midi driven by the 192 midi and m-audio midi. Mostly work with softsynths. All mixed in the 192 with outs to another mixer which only lets me switch easliy between powered speakers or headphones and easily change volume. John
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/28 12:03:41
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Now I see, sorry I missed your first sentence which does say you had a sound from the mike. You see the clearer the info the quicker we could help you. First post was unclear to me. So what is happening is you have a MIDI interface and a sound card interface. You are recording MIDI fine because you selected that device in the MIDI options. Now go to Audio options and make sure your M audio 192 is selected as the input device. Select the M audio as the input source for the track.
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/28 12:12:30
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you said from the 502 to the 192 - are you using the MAIN OUTS for that? connected to the audio inputs 1 & 2 on the 192?
are you trying to record all 5 channels at the same time? or are you recording the main outs of the mixer, but only recording one instrument at a time?
what are the pan settings on the 502 for the mic input?
on your sonar project - what do you have set up for your INPUT on the AUDIO track when you're trying to record the MIC?
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John6528
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Re:Can't record audiophile 192
2011/01/28 12:20:27
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johnnyV
Now I see, sorry I missed your first sentence which does say you had a sound from the mike.
Now go to Audio options and make sure your M audio 192 is selected as the input device.
Select the M audio as the input source for the track.
Dhuhhhh... that was it! Jeez... sorry. You can see I never record. It was just a whim cause my grandkids were over here.
thanks
John
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