pisceandreams
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Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
For years I've used the original Cakewalk Music Creator's FX Stereo Reverb plugin in my songs, from ACID 3.0 to 6.0, on Windows XP 32-bit. Now, I'm wanting to move everything over to my new Windows 7 64-bit PC, and that reverb plugin will not open in any song. I have so many songs where that plugin has been used and tuned very finely for each separate track, so I can't part with it. Could anyone please offer some advice on how I could make it work in Windows 7? I am rather desperate for a solution.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/24 18:29:49
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Welcome to the forum. It's probably a DX effect and won't work on a 64-bit OS.
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pisceandreams
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/24 19:53:28
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Thanks. And I really hope that's not true...
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/24 22:16:21
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yup... probably is. Plugs, I believe need to be compatible with the bit rate in the OS. 32 to 32..... 64 to 64.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/24 23:53:59
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That's definitely a bummer...looks like I'll just have to keep the two partition setup I've got going now. I've got maybe 300 songs that use that plugin, so I don't really have any other option.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/25 07:21:24
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you can always update the plugs to 64 bit. most companies have the 64 bit upgrades available now. I would think the update would or should be a free update to registered users. this is the reason I decided a few years ago, when I built my new DAW, to stay 32 bit all the way. I know I am limited now by some of the new things only being in 64 bit but that was a decision I made...... and as long as this system runs, it is all I need.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/07/25 07:22:55
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/25 07:39:26
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But will my songs automatically pick up on the 64-bit plugins? Or would I have to tweak everything all over again?
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/25 08:02:05
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If they are DX's FX then you'd have reinsert them as the 64bit version (they are not the same "app"). if they are VST's they should work on the 64bit OS using the bitbridge IF you have an MC version that has bitbridge. I think that came out with MC5. I don't see where you said which version of MC you have. if you don't have MC5 or 6, and the FX you're talking about are VST's then buying MC6 should allow them to open in MC6 and work using the bitbridge.
post edited by Beagle - 2012/07/25 08:05:30
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/25 09:39:33
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effects have come so far in years that the reverb effect you are talking about is outdated,not that it wasnt a good plug in for its time,but things get better..much better. open up to new technology,why would you need that plug in for 300 songs. unless your still mastering those 300 songs. make your backups and install a single boot,start fresh. the samething happen to me when i went from pro audio 9,i was very weary and reluctent to install windows 7 from windows xp. but serious,what was i going to do,let technology pass me by and fall behind over a couple plug ins? reap the benefits of the future,youll be happy you did. best wishes
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/25 20:18:36
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Chuckebaby, I appreciate the advice, and one of the reasons I'm trying to get everything onto Windows 7 64 is to play with some new tools, but I would like to make sure I can't solve this issue before thinking about reprogramming hundreds of songs. Most are unfinished, and the ones I have finished and released I still would like to retain their original sound so I can render out individual instruments if needed. It may be an old plugin, but I knew how to use it and make it sound great. Beagle, I have the very first MC. I started using the reverb FX in ACID way back and just kept adding it to songs. I do think they are VSTs...so there's hope then?
post edited by pisceandreams - 2012/07/25 20:20:57
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/29 08:12:37
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sorry late to reply,good luck.almost positive there not not vsts though.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/29 08:57:08
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pisceandreams Chuckebaby, I appreciate the advice, and one of the reasons I'm trying to get everything onto Windows 7 64 is to play with some new tools, but I would like to make sure I can't solve this issue before thinking about reprogramming hundreds of songs. Most are unfinished, and the ones I have finished and released I still would like to retain their original sound so I can render out individual instruments if needed. It may be an old plugin, but I knew how to use it and make it sound great. Beagle, I have the very first MC. I started using the reverb FX in ACID way back and just kept adding it to songs. I do think they are VSTs...so there's hope then? OK... here's how I see it... I agree, you should update what needs to be updated and move forward. At this time, if you have several hundred UNFINISHED songs..... seriously, are you really ever planning to finish more than one or two of them? I would think that would be unlikely regardless of your intentions to do so, especially since you have not done it by now. So do the updates and if you decide to finish them, take the time to change the plugs. Side note: I have many songs that are for the most part finished. I listen to them from time to time and think that I really should go back and fix this or that in the song, and make that decision with the best of intentions..... but in reality, I know too, that it will not happen. I have new tunes to work on and write, and even finding time to work on them is hard to come by. I have intention to rewrite with my co-writer, a few lines in a country song that needs to go back to a publisher in Nashville after the fixes..... still trying to get the time to concentrate enough to write a few simple lines. One of those things that needs to be done..... hopefully before the fall of the year.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/29 23:47:12
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pisceandreams Beagle, I have the very first MC. I started using the reverb FX in ACID way back and just kept adding it to songs. I do think they are VSTs...so there's hope then?
Sorry, but the Cakewalk effects are most definitely DX. Open your Plug-in manager. It lists the plug-ins by type, and you can see that all of the Cakewalk effects fall into the DX Audio Effects section. Cakewalk was committed to the DX format for a long time, and only the last few generations include VST's. You might want to consider upgrading to MC6 or X1 Essential. Both are very modestly priced as upgrades, and should support DX plug-ins in a contemporary environment.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/30 09:06:24
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RobertB pisceandreams Beagle, I have the very first MC. I started using the reverb FX in ACID way back and just kept adding it to songs. I do think they are VSTs...so there's hope then? Sorry, but the Cakewalk effects are most definitely DX. Open your Plug-in manager. It lists the plug-ins by type, and you can see that all of the Cakewalk effects fall into the DX Audio Effects section. Cakewalk was committed to the DX format for a long time, and only the last few generations include VST's. You might want to consider upgrading to MC6 or X1 Essential. Both are very modestly priced as upgrades, and should support DX plug-ins in a contemporary environment. FWIW, he contacted me via PM and I did some checking for him. the FX he is talking about ARE DX FX as Bob states here. however, I BELIEVE they have been updated in order to work on 64bit systems (just not in the 64bit version of sonar). if you go to the e-store and "buy" the FREE downloads of the cakewalk FX and install them, they DO work on my system in MC5 (I don't have MC4 to try them on, but they should work there as well). and I am running 64bit windows 7. so if he purchases those free FX that should do what he wants it to do, although I'm not sure if it's going to be a 1 to 1 replacement without intervention because I can't test that scenerio. MC4 MIGHT want him to replace the cakewalk FX with the cakewalk FX of the same name but of the updated versions.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/30 21:58:44
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Hey Beagle. I actually registered and went through the purchasing process like you suggested, but for the 2nd and 3rd FX packs it told me it had run out of serial numbers :\ So I'm not sure what to do now, besides maybe try to contact Cakewalk support.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/07/30 23:23:07
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yep. that's what you'll have to do.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/08/02 08:03:51
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I got a serial number and installed the packs, but unfortunately it didn't work. It's weird because I have another plugin from Sound Forge 7.0 that works just fine in Windows 7, and that version is almost as old my Music Creator. Oh well, thanks for trying guys.
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/08/02 09:07:19
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I wouldn't give up.... some of these things can be a bit tricky to get set up properly the first time. Once they are set up and working, they will work from that point forward every time. work with cake support and let us know what the eventual solution turns out to be. Beagle, with his photographic memory will be able to help someone else down the road.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/08/02 09:08:29
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Re:Can't use Cakewalk FX Plugins with Windows 7 64-bit
2012/08/02 10:10:03
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Guitarhacker I wouldn't give up.... some of these things can be a bit tricky to get set up properly the first time. Once they are set up and working, they will work from that point forward every time. work with cake support and let us know what the eventual solution turns out to be. Beagle, with his photographic memory will be able to help someone else down the road. If I read the whole post...
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