CbB more stable than Platinum? So far - yes

I've been using CbB for 4 days and so far am surprised how stable it is compared to Platinum. I would have gotten about 3-4 crashes by now and some that would require a reboot. Has anyone else noticed more stability?
 
IN the Fall when Cakewalk went out of business, I decided to return to the most stable version of Splat which for me was 2017.01. I had an image file that had all the Win updates on that date. I turned off all Win updates so there would be no more variables. 
 
Using V-Vocal I was getting about 3 or so crashes a week with none requiring a reboot. I was getting far more crashes with more current Splat versions. So I'm really surprised that this week using CbB, which is the latest version of Splat with some new bug fixes,  I used V-Vocal a lot this week with only 1 crash, which I was able to reopen Splat right away with no reboot.
 
For testing purposes I'll try about 2 more weeks or so then I'll do all the current Win updates and try that for a few weeks and see if that causes instability. If it doesn't I'll then update my MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface and see how that affects stability.
 
I'd like to know if anyone knows what bug fixes and improvements to stability was done with CbB and if anyone else has noticed stability improvements

gmp
I've been using CbB for 4 days and so far am surprised how stable it is compared to Platinum. I would have gotten about 3-4 crashes by now and some that would require a reboot. Has anyone else noticed more stability?
 
IN the Fall when Cakewalk went out of business, I decided to return to the most stable version of Splat which for me was 2017.01. I had an image file that had all the Win updates on that date. I turned off all Win updates so there would be no more variables. 
 
Using V-Vocal I was getting about 3 or so crashes a week with none requiring a reboot. I was getting far more crashes with more current Splat versions. So I'm really surprised that this week using CbB, which is the latest version of Splat with some new bug fixes,  I used V-Vocal a lot this week with only 1 crash, which I was able to reopen Splat right away with no reboot.
 
For testing purposes I'll try about 2 more weeks or so then I'll do all the current Win updates and try that for a few weeks and see if that causes instability. If it doesn't I'll then update my MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface and see how that affects stability.
 
I'd like to know if anyone knows what bug fixes and improvements to stability was done with CbB and if anyone else has noticed stability improvements

I have also found the new Bandlab Cakewalk version to be very stable . . . when I see you mentioning V-Vocal . . . all I can say is I've never found the V-Vocal plugin to be stable in any of the newer Sonar releases, so admittedly when I moved to Melodyne, crashing was less, but caused by different reasons, where there are workarounds.
 
Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?

No crashes yet! Haven't tried V-Vocal but have use Melodyne extensively. Super stable for me!

noynekker

gmp
I've been using CbB for 4 days and so far am surprised how stable it is compared to Platinum. I would have gotten about 3-4 crashes by now and some that would require a reboot. Has anyone else noticed more stability?
 
IN the Fall when Cakewalk went out of business, I decided to return to the most stable version of Splat which for me was 2017.01. I had an image file that had all the Win updates on that date. I turned off all Win updates so there would be no more variables. 
 
Using V-Vocal I was getting about 3 or so crashes a week with none requiring a reboot. I was getting far more crashes with more current Splat versions. So I'm really surprised that this week using CbB, which is the latest version of Splat with some new bug fixes,  I used V-Vocal a lot this week with only 1 crash, which I was able to reopen Splat right away with no reboot.
 
For testing purposes I'll try about 2 more weeks or so then I'll do all the current Win updates and try that for a few weeks and see if that causes instability. If it doesn't I'll then update my MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface and see how that affects stability.
 
I'd like to know if anyone knows what bug fixes and improvements to stability was done with CbB and if anyone else has noticed stability improvements

I have also found the new Bandlab Cakewalk version to be very stable . . . when I see you mentioning V-Vocal . . . all I can say is I've never found the V-Vocal plugin to be stable in any of the newer Sonar releases, so admittedly when I moved to Melodyne, crashing was less, but caused by different reasons, where there are workarounds.
 
Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?

Yes V-Vocal was a Roland product and it's not supported anymore. Actually I've found quite a few workarounds that make it work pretty well. Currently I'm not getting anymore crashes that require a reboot.
 
The crashes now only require me to double click on the CWP file name I was working on and CbB opens up right away. I lose about 10 sec. I have a SSD for my OS and one for my samples, yet I found that if I either disconnect or freeze all soft synths V-Vocal works a heck of a lot better, way more stable.So this is another reason why after a crash I can reopen the project very quickly.
 
I tried Melodyne, but miss several things in V-Vocla so went back to it. One day I'll probably be forced to drop V-Vocal, but for now I'm pleased. 

stickman393
>> Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?
 
So was I, but I'm still here. And I still use V-Vocal. 

Yep. So do I.

gmp

iRelevant
My answer would be no.
 
As a 32-bit man, I've had a crash everyday the last 4 days since install. This didn't happen that frequently in SPLAT. It looks like it is connected to the BitBridge.exe component, and my 32 bit plugs. It's not catastrophic however, as it mainly happens when I'm shutting down or opening the DAW and no work have been lost. I expect it to become more robust going forward. At the moment I'm working on former Sonar VS projects, and becoming a x64 convert is not an option. 
 
Otherwise i feel it has become more responsive and "faster" in the latest release, and the future looks bright. 
 
Edit : May I ask if there is some consensus as to whether the 2017.01 release is the most "stable" release or is this based on your personal experience ? 
 

Since you're 32-bit, I have a feeling your experiences are going to be different. I assume you mean you're using 32 bit Splat or CbB. I'm using 64 bit, yet there are some 32 bit soft synths and plugins that I use that are automatically converted using bitbridge.

It took me a long time to finally go to 64 bit Splat. It was a painful transition, so I can understand why you're still there. I had to find alternatives to some plugins since not all 32 bit plugins work with bitbridge. I still have a few old 32 bit projects that resurface from time to time. If I load those projects in 64 bit, then I get this screen with tons of missing plugins.

As far as a consensus on 2017.01, I';m not sure if others would agree with me. I just found it to be true - so it's personal experience only. But now that CbB is working really well, I'm beginning to wonder if it wasn't Splat but either Win updates or my audio interface software I was using in Jan 2017. Over the next month or 2 I'll find out the answer.

My current suspicion is now my MOTU Ultralte AVB software. I love the box but am not at all impressed with MOTU's dedication to serving the PC world. They come from the MAC world and seem to be lacking in PC expertise.


 

I see. Thank you very much for your time and response.  

I've had some issues with Cakewalk - never ending or crashing VST scan, unrecognized VSTs in existing projects and a couple other hangs. I haven't used Cakewalk a lot yet but all the things that are not working correctly used to (and still do) work in Sonar. Always my first diagnostic question: what changed? I can say that the VSTs and projects have NOT changed but the program has... 

I always hope for the best with Cakewalk Sonar but after having a lot of sudden “Crashes” after Many years trying to work through it? Everyone has different experience with the software, like many I use mostly great 3rd party plugs-in’s (Fab/NuGen/Softube/UAD etc.) going to Studio One has been such a delight, I seem to still have this fear of projects Locking-up and constant “save” although since using the new S1 for these months have been “flawless” I know Nothing is perfect and I’m still in Reserve with CbB. I’ve downloaded the New Cakewalk and we’ll see, again hoping for the best!

For me it is more stable for sure. I was getting crashes if I didn't keep saving my work every dozen or more edits. I got used to this but sometimes I'd forget and boom,, there goes the last 15 minutes of work again.. 
I also got freeze up's after I would export a song. Thank goodness it was already saved. 
 
So same system, same everything, no more crashes no more freeze ups. And even though I still beleieve in saving as you work I certainly have gone for long periods now where I forgot and nothing happened. It's about time too! 
Noel said that there were some changes to the core that made CbB more compatable with W10. This is most likely why we are seeing this improvement. 
 
And sorry to hear some are not happy about 32 bit, I too had a few favourites but they are now replaced and by what turns out to be better stuff, so get over it soon as nobody really will care anymore. Like people who use Windows XP because they chouldn't change. 

 




I started all new projects as 64 bit about a year and a half ago. I didn't like leaving Lexicon Pantheon reverb behind plus several other nice plugins, but I found good replacements, including Breverb instead of the Lexicon. I figured it was just a matter of time before 32 bit would start holding me back and causing problems. Man I sure glad I did it, considering CbB is only 64 bit. 
 
For anyone that made the transition, I doubt if anyone will care. I still have quite a few old projects that are 32 bit and will be glad when they are done. When I need to work on them, I simply open Splat 32 bit and it works just fine. All the plugins work. Yet if I open the same project in 64 bit I get a screen of many missing plugins. I purposely stopped updating my 32 bit Splat, since it was really only for old projects that were fine with the old versions. 
 
 Sometimes on a 32 bit project if it hasn't been mixed, then I'll just open the 32 bit project, hit Control-A and Control-C, then open my 64 bit template and paste all the tracks to the 64 bit project and finish it in 64 bit. I'm sure through the years I'll have to use 32 bit when revisiting these old projects, but am perfectly content to use my old 32 bit Splat and not use CbB.
 
My advice to those hanging on to 32 bit, is start pondering a transition to 64 bit. There's no huge hurry, carefully work this out. Splat 32 bit is working fine, but one day you'll be glad you did the transition to 64 bit. When you're ready, just start all new projects in 64 bit CbB and use 32 bit for the old projects. As time passes hopefully opening 32 bit will become a rarity.