Changing and saving drum machine changes

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Norm Purdy
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2006/12/21 21:56:03 (permalink)

Changing and saving drum machine changes

I hope I can make sense here...I have a lap top loaded with midi files...I run 2 usbs out...one to a dr880 drum machine and the other to a Roland Sound canvas...all thru my PA...the Dr880 has the capability to change drum kits and base sounds...my question is where in the midi file do I tell the Dr880 to save the changes I have made to the drums and base...I called the tech support for the 880 and he said that my program has to send the commands...but I dont know where to look for the commands or what to do...Any comments would be greatly appreciated...I would call tech support but they are closed now...Thanx
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    rbowser
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    RE: Changing and saving drum machine changes 2006/12/21 22:36:20 (permalink)
    Tech support has given you the answer you need. You need to insert program changes in your project, and they become part of the MIDI info sent out to your machines. What the numbers are for particular patches is of course unique to each machine.

    In a MIDI track, use the menu command to insert a patch change, or you can do it in the Event View list which has all the MIDI track data.
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    RE: Changing and saving drum machine changes 2006/12/21 22:46:56 (permalink)
    There is no one way to have hardware drum machines save changes.

    What one machine will do another will not.

    Some will work great with just GM....some will not.

    Heres a coupleways I've worked in the past....and present.

    I currently use a Zoom323, an Alesis DM5 or Yamaha XG Kits for midi drums.

    All 3 work differently.

    Heres a couple things to try.

    Method #1...See Help files....Creating Drum Maps.....

    For me the best work wise , set up a drum map for your device. This is done in SHS inconjunction with your pieces MIDI note #' and the MIDI notes sent by the SHS drum map.You will basically re-map your MIDI output notes in SHS , kinda like a translation sheet for the drum machine to see and respond to.
    I set a map up for each kit I use. The Zoom323 is not GM compliant and mapping is necessary for Sequencer use(MIDI Drums)

    Drum mapping can take some work and have a learning curve but it isn't like brain surgery and is worth the extra work.

    Note that some drum machines will map differently some will map pads to MIDI note #'s.......some will map the sound to a MIDI note#. You will also pretty much need a manual for your machine to do any mapping

    Method #2 .....if your unit is MIDI(GM) compliant.

    Edit all your Kits and sounds on the drum machine and save as a user set or kit. Most all drum machines allow for user kits to be stored on board..
    While working on a project go to the drum machine dial up the kit you wish to use..........done.

    Sounds like you may have a bit of a MIDI learning curve in front of you. Its gonna be a bit tough at first... stick with it.......a basic MIDI Knowledge will be helpful in all recording aspects.

    I am a hobbiest Audio guy.... With limited MIDI knowledge....I made myself figure it out and it has benefited me greatly.


    Good Luck........
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    RE: Changing and saving drum machine changes 2006/12/22 00:08:32 (permalink)
    That could be the case, Zungle, that he needs to re-map drum sounds. As you said, a good thing to learn, which isn't really difficult, just a bit "fiddley."

    I thought he meant he just needed to send program changes, because he said he wanted to use his drum machine's "...capability to change drum kits..."

    Good to learn as much as you can about all the above, Norm. You'll end up getting just what you want.

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