lmetrinko
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Changing frequency for MIDI notes
Hi, I am currently using Sonar 4 Producer and want to change the "temperament" by changing the fundamental frequency of the notes. Is it possible to do this? I seem only to be able to use equal temperament.
If it's not possible to change this, does anybody know if it can be changed in Sonar 5 or 6?
Thanks,
Laura
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/14 01:11:29
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No, no and no.
You could only do that in MIDI using pitchbend and it would be a nightmare to try to get the exact frequencies. Get a synth or softsynth that has different temperament built-in. I had a Yamaha synth (FB-01? TX81Z?) years ago that had several different tunings.
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/14 09:39:31
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Well believe it or not someone has made a VSTi plugin to do just that. Tobybear Productions MICROTUNER automatically adds pitchbend to your note to 'correct' them to a defined scale. You can download it here: http://www.tobybear.de/p_midibag.html The bad news is that I don't think SP4 supports midi out from VSTi (can anyone confirm? I'm not an SP4 user). I seem to remember reading somwhere that this is on the list of new features on Sonar 6, but I can't find the reference so I can't be sure. BTW Dave, I still have (and use) my Yamaha TX81Z, although I have to admit I have never tried any exotic tunings. Glyn
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/14 10:58:46
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want to change the "temperament" by changing the fundamental frequency of the notes. Is it possible to do this? It sounds like you'd rather have an overall host application feature, but quite a few current soft-synths feature Scala implementation. Dimension Pro, Rapture, z3ta+, Rhino, VSampler, Eve, Tobybear's Helios, and Cameleon come to mind. You can take advantage of the 3000+ .scl files available in the archive [ here]. More importantly, you can get as creative as you want by creating your own custom files. There's a full-featured open application on a variety of platforms that's very deep and extensible: Scala 2.2t here. For more information, go to Scala's home page [here].
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lmetrinko
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/14 12:32:36
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Yes, I would rather have the overall host application feature, but this looks like I may be able to do what I have in mind. Thanks to all that replied!
Laura
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/14 13:22:42
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I think Sonar supports midi out from VSTi as of the 5.2 update. ORIGINAL: glynbo
Well believe it or not someone has made a VSTi plugin to do just that. Tobybear Productions MICROTUNER automatically adds pitchbend to your note to 'correct' them to a defined scale. You can download it here:
http://www.tobybear.de/p_midibag.html
The bad news is that I don't think SP4 supports midi out from VSTi (can anyone confirm? I'm not an SP4 user). I seem to remember reading somwhere that this is on the list of new features on Sonar 6, but I can't find the reference so I can't be sure.
BTW Dave, I still have (and use) my Yamaha TX81Z, although I have to admit I have never tried any exotic tunings.
Glyn
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lmetrinko
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/19 14:30:34
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According to Cakewalk Tech Support, Dimension Pro does NOT support Scala 2.2. Rapture definitely does, works like a charm.
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/19 14:57:23
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Dimension Pro does NOT support Scala 2.2. Rapture definitely does, works like a charm. Hmm. That's funny ... it does here. 2.2 being the standalone file construction app; Scala meaning the .scl file itself. Dimension Pro 1.2 even received the fix that resets standard tuning with Shift+click. In Rapture, you still have to close & re-open the GUI as a workaround for the time being. They were possibly referring to the original version of Dimension that bundles with Project5 v.2.
post edited by b rock - 2006/09/19 15:18:56
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/19 15:19:44
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I thought Sonar 5 already did this? Or am I just misreading the settings? Forgive me for my ignorance, I only just got on the Sonar 5 boat.
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lmetrinko
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/19 15:23:20
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Yeah, I wondered if they knew what they were talking about. I was trying to decide on Rapture vs. Dimension Pro. I should have asked here...but I haven't had the issue you describe - maybe I'm using it differently? I've simply applied the .scl file to a particular Rapture track so I can hear it (through the speakers) from the MIDI keyboard.
Did you have anything else to add re: Dimension Pro?
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RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2006/09/19 15:52:53
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I haven't had the issue you describe - maybe I'm using it differently? No, I should've been more accurate in my description. In Rapture, you click on the keytrack window of the Pitch modulator to open up Load Tuning Definition File. You can audition Scala files all day long. But once you use the Shift+click reset to return to standard tuning, the keytrack window "freezes". You can no longer just click on it to change .scl files. The quick workaround is to close the GUI and re-open it. I also made a standard tuning .scl file in Scala 2.2 to access as a replacement for Shift+click. In DP 1.2, the fix is in, and it's reported to be included in the next update of Rapture.
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Re: RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2017/03/26 20:57:44
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Hi.i neeeeed a midi fx for microtonal vst.way sonar. Why not just vst kind of sonar after all these years
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Re: RE: Changing frequency for MIDI notes
2017/03/26 21:01:02
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Please stop reviving old threads and posting the same message to them.
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