Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1

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2011/01/22 09:53:11 (permalink)

Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1

Hi again folks, it's the newby Sonar guy again.
I've managed to get Sonar 8.5 to use Cakewalk as standard, for playing my Midi files. Thanks for all your info, it was a real benefit to me. Having got my headround more of Sonar, I was wondering how I change Cakewalk tts-1 instruments. For example, if I open one of my midi files using Sonar and I set Cakewalk as the soft synth( I don't use an external sound canvas), how could I select a different bass, or a different piano to trigger within the soft synth? This might sound a daft question again, but please bear with me. I've been a cubase/ Roland virtual synth person for years........curse windows 7!!!
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    daveny5
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2011/01/22 10:04:52 (permalink)
    On the MIDI track, set the output to the TTS-1, select a channel (1-16), select a bank and then select the patch. 

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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2011/01/22 10:24:08 (permalink)
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    On the MIDI track, set the output to the TTS-1, select a channel (1-16), select a bank and then select the patch. 
    I thank you for your knowledge and wisdom!!! I apologise for being very slow, I'll get there mate. Davy

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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2011/01/22 10:34:31 (permalink)
    Hi again mate. This process seems to work with other instruments, but not with the drums. I select as instructed, but when I select a different kit, it makes no difference to the drum kit sound. Any ideas why?
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2011/01/22 11:33:57 (permalink)
    Another way to change patches is to leave the track bank and patch as none, then open the TTS-1 and click the name of the instrument near the bottom of the window. If you haven't changed it, it should say Piano. After clicking the name a box will open where you can select a patch from a list that includes all the banks.

    Changing the patch for drums may not give you much different sounding drums if you're sticking to basic sounds like kick/snare/toms/cymbals. Some of the sounds are different but may be on different notes.
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2011/01/22 11:40:41 (permalink)
    To add a question as a respons to the answers from Dave and Chappel. If you change the instrument settings, will it stay that way or will the program change in the SMF make them change back again?

    (not worked with SMF yet, but probably will some day)

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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2011/01/22 11:56:36 (permalink)
    If you open a SMF it will already have patch events inserted. If those are not removed they will be used by the track. You can remove them in the Event List View. Clicking an icon for an event type will hide/show it. So by clicking all the icons for all the event types except patch change you can easily spot and remove them.
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2011/01/22 12:21:42 (permalink)
    Chappel


    If you open a SMF it will already have patch events inserted. If those are not removed they will be used by the track. You can remove them in the Event List View. Clicking an icon for an event type will hide/show it. So by clicking all the icons for all the event types except patch change you can easily spot and remove them.


    Thank you for making that clear!

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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2016/10/29 13:13:55 (permalink)
    I have set up to use a Banjo sound in channel 2 of TTS-1.  No matter what I do, the TTS-1 sound reverts back to the original patch when I hit play.  I have deleted all controller events from the even list.  And I can't find any place to change the channel or patch in the track view.  How can I get the sound changes to stick?
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2016/10/30 02:57:54 (permalink)
    At the top+right of the track header list there is a drop-down control that chooses which control-widgets will show up in the track headers. Try 'All', and then expand the track header for your banjo track. Then you'll probably see the bank and patch widgets that show the original patch.
     
    Generally, when opening a MIDI file, patch/bank settings before the notes will populate the bank/patch widgets in the tracks. So they won't show up in the event lists.

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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2016/10/30 10:36:39 (permalink)
    SONAR behaves as bvideo described above for GM, GS and XG MIDI files.  This is described in
    https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=MIDI_Files.6.html
     
    This is the reason the PC events aren't seen in the event viewer - SONAR takes them out and places them in the track's MIDI-specific controls

     
    I have NOT experimented with the following
     
    TTSSEQ.ini has a parameter that appears to control this; GeneralMidiSMFs
     
    The docs indicate that this is enabled by default, but mine is set '0'-disabled.  It's possible that enabling this will keep PC events in the MIDI stream instead of taking it out to load the track controls.  Again, I don't KNOW this and I don't have any known standard MIDI files to test with.
     
    https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=INI_Files.5.html
     
    If any of you MIDI GURUs decide to experiment with this, please post the results back here.

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    MARKROVER71
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2017/05/02 11:10:19 (permalink)
    I find it easier recording an instrument from TTS each time i go to the synth rack am i making it more difficult than actually using TTS ?as keep going to the synth rack to add an instrument from TTS
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2017/05/02 16:12:03 (permalink)
    You might want to start your own thread instead of hijacking a very old one it makes it easier to answer, People will waste time ( like I just did) reading the old posts and might not even read yours. That's how forums work. 
     
    But to try and answer your question. 
    The TTS'-1 is multitimbral and can play 16 channels. 
    Insert a new midi track for each instrument you want and assign it's output to a different channel using the dialog shown in post #11 on the left. As said you can then set up each track using either the track inspector or the TTS-1 GUI to select instruments. CH 10 is normally Drums which you will be much better off using A better VST like Session drummer or AD2. 

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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2018/05/18 21:43:08 (permalink)
    Does anyone know how to do this in Bandlab's Cakewalk?  I can only play a piano.
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    Re:Changing instruments in Cakewalk TTS-1 2018/05/18 22:19:59 (permalink)
    The answer to your question is in my old post above and follow my link to the tutorial on using the TTS-1 in the link. And as I said in that post you should always ask a question in a new thread, 

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