jabbapop
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8
- Joined: 2013/09/24 23:15:06
- Status: offline
Changing the snap duration in staff view?
Is it possible to change the snap duration in staff view? What I mean is, by default it appears that the snap duration is the same as the duration of the note selected. Ie. quarter notes snap to quarter durations, 8th notes to 8th duration, etc etc. What I want to do is place a quarter note at 8th durations. I can't see an option to change the placement durations to snap in staff view however, so I have to place 8th notes and manually change the duration to quarter notes, which is time consuming. I have cakewalk home studio 2002 installed and this is a native capability, so it's odd that I can't find such an option in music creator 6. Anyone know?
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/09/29 17:14:17
(permalink)
It's there. I'm not on the DAW right now, but it is possible to do this since that is the only way I work is in staff when editing midi and it's there....
they change the location of various things from one version to the next so it might be hidden in some other menu or location.... but it's there. Use the users manual and help.... believe it or not, that probably has the answer in it.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
Delus
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9
- Joined: 2013/09/29 21:46:19
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/09/29 22:03:04
(permalink)
If I understood you, you want to change the snap notes duration, right?
1. Right Click the Snap Icon in Control Bar
2. Click "Snap Settings..."
3. Click and Hold the Note Duration (Left most cell)
4. Select the duration as desired
|
jabbapop
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8
- Joined: 2013/09/24 23:15:06
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 12:30:30
(permalink)
Yeah the problem is this doesn't effect snap duration in staff/notation view. In this view, duration always seems to set to that of the note selected. So if you place quarter notes you can only do so in quarter duration. I was wondering if there was a fix/way around this, which to my knowledge and extensive research there does not seem to be.
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 12:43:14
(permalink)
Snap settings have nothing to do with note duration. Note duration info here
|
jabbapop
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8
- Joined: 2013/09/24 23:15:06
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 12:58:46
(permalink)
I'm sorry things are being so confused. The two numerical quantities being discussed are note duration and snap settings. The problem is that in staff/notation view, I cannot set the snap settings at all. The snap settings default immutably to the note duration selected. Thus, in staff view, the snap setting is the note duration. IE if a quarter note is selected the grid snaps to quarter increments, sixteenth to sixteenth, etc. It doesn't appear that there's a way to change this. Obviously I can change the note duration no problem, but I cannot change the snap setting in staff view (independent of note duration) at all.
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 13:00:17
(permalink)
Best not to conflate "snap settings" and "note duration" into snap duration. Guaranteed confusion (at least on my part). Typing the "N" key might help to get "snap settings" in staff view.
post edited by scook - 2013/10/08 13:02:24
|
jabbapop
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8
- Joined: 2013/09/24 23:15:06
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 13:06:05
(permalink)
Yeah thanks for the "N" tip that helped before when it wasn't snapping at all. But I mean okay so it's either snap on snap off as the old saying goes but in terms of fine control it's not there. The problem with not conflating "snap settings" and "note durations" is that such a mistake is the core of the problem; that is, it's exactly what music creator 6 is doing, the thorn in my side so to speak. :-X
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 13:16:19
(permalink)
You may have an easier time working in the PRV. Although it looks a lot different from the staff view, it is a better maintained section of the application.
|
jabbapop
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8
- Joined: 2013/09/24 23:15:06
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 13:25:17
(permalink)
Yeah that's what I've been doing, it's just not very "musical" I mean staff/notation view is good to see what all the instruments are doing at a glance whereas PRV is muddled and flat. Granted it's good for some stuff, controlling envelopes. But meh.
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/08 13:33:02
(permalink)
There is nothing to prevent both views from being displayed at the same time.
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/09 07:26:17
(permalink)
Snap to grid resolution is settable in either Staff or PRV. All S2G does is set the default resolution where a note will "snap to" the closest one. Set it to quarters and insert a note and it will snap to the closest quarter beat. Same thing with eights, sixteenths and so on. Shut it off and it will place the note exactly where you place it with no snapping involved. I often work in this mode.
The note duration is set and edited by choosing the note duration from the toolbar.....or, by right clicking on the note and opening the NOTE PROPERTIES window. In there, you can change the velocity, volume, pitch, start, and ending (duration) of the note.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
jabbapop
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8
- Joined: 2013/09/24 23:15:06
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/09 16:27:42
(permalink)
The problem is that it doesn't seem possible to change the snap to grid settings in staff/notion view, Guitarhacker. :( It's either on or off (and this too seems to be a hidden feature, the "N" key, as the setting options on the control bar are completely irrelevant to the grid settings.)
Anyway, I guess maybe I could have the staff view and the piano roller view open at the same time... But it's pretty unwieldly. And I don't really want to write in piano roller anyway. I mean what am I some kind of player piano typesetter? I guess the answer is there is no answer. Not to sound troll-y but the functionality just isn't there.
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Changing the snap duration in staff view?
2013/10/10 07:44:26
(permalink)
jabbapop
And I don't really want to write in piano roller anyway. I mean what am I some kind of player piano typesetter? I guess the answer is there is no answer.
I'll have a look in a bit. Writing in staff is essentially the same as writing in PRV... it's just 2 ways of accomplishing the same thing. Which ever is easier. Some folks simply love PRV. It does actually make a few things easier to do.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|