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2017/02/16 14:22:04 (permalink)

Cheap computer build

I want to build a cheap daw.  would like it to stay under 350.  I have a ss drive already and a copy of Win 7. I have been looking at
some amd cpu bundles (cpu and motherboard combo).  does anyone have any feedback?  It would be greatly appreciated
 

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Kamm Schreiner
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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/16 16:41:02 (permalink)
I don't think that for $350 you'll come anywhere close to what you already have. (Looks like your existing system is pretty nice. Certainly way better than mine.) If you're looking to build a computer for someone else, I would recommend buying a used computer on eBay rather than individual parts. I suspect that buying piece by piece (RAM, power supply, motherboard, CPU, CPU Fan, GPU, etc.) will be much more expensive than buying everything together. An i7 CPU by itself is more than $300 if purchased new and around $200 if purchased used so don't expect much for $350 - even if you buy used.
 
I'm using a computer with an older Core 2 Duo 3.0 GHz CPU and it seems to work fine. You can buy used computers with that CPU for much less than a newer i3/i5/i7 CPU. I haven't got any performance complaints, but my songs don't use a ton of plug-in synths.
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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/16 17:41:32 (permalink)
What do you need to buy exactly?  Typically you can save money especially if you look for deals.
 
You could probably get a decent MB, CPU and RAM for $350 if you already had everything else.

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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/17 01:06:33 (permalink)
I am not looking to match my current system.  just something that will give me decent performance for tracking
 

ASRock Z97 Pro 4 Motherboard
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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/17 01:08:04 (permalink)
i need a power supply, case, ram, hard drive, dvd drive( I have an ss drive already) cpu and motherboard
 

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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/17 09:35:54 (permalink)
You are going to really struggle to get something under $350.  Power supply and case will run you at least $100 on their own (if you are lucky.)  The processor and mb are likely going to be almost $200 (and that's for an i3.)  That only leaves $50 for memory, harddrive and DVD.

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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/17 10:26:10 (permalink)
You wrote: "i need a power supply, case, ram, hard drive, dvd drive (I have an ss drive already) cpu and motherboard"
 
If you need all that, you're going to need to buy used and you're probably also going to have to buy a complete system. I can't imagine buying all those parts - even used - and stay under $350. However, there are plenty of used systems available on eBay for less than $350 if you're willing to go Core 2 Duo. I just looked and you can buy a complete, working, system for under $150. You'd need to add more RAM but you will have plenty of money left over to buy that. I also looked at intel i3 systems and it appears that you'll spend around $300 just for a case, power supply, motherboard and CPU. Leaving a DVD drive, HD, and RAM. That would be way over budget. Maybe some searching will find better deals but I doubt you'll stay under $350 for everything that's needed.
 
If you decide to buy an older core 2 duo system make sure the motherboard will accept 8 gig of RAM.
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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/17 10:45:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/02/23 13:18:11
This is a great site for finding deals on parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/

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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/19 23:48:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Starise 2017/02/21 13:36:53
You would have to go the AMD route.  An AMD FX6300 and board are under $200.

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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/20 07:49:35 (permalink)
He needs to get the mb/processor combo down to near $100 to have any shot if he needs everything else except an SSD.

Dave
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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/20 09:03:49 (permalink)
Recommend refurbished route - example: http://m.tigerdirect.com/products/3393962

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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/20 12:11:58 (permalink)
I have built several PC's in the last few years using a case at about $40.00 and a PSU (400 W) at about $20.00 which were new items purchased on sale/rebate at Newegg.com. You can easily spend more than $150.00 for a case alone if you are persnickety. It should not be hard to find a new 1 TB HD for $40.00-45.00. Do not even think about getting an SSD on this budget. So long as you do not plan to overclock, stock coolers and standard desktop memory should be fine. My final builds typically came out at about $500.00 but the big cost was the MB and Intel chip, buying the models that were getting rave reviews a couple of years previously at substantial savings is the key. The law of diminishing returns applies bigly in computer performance, and a surprising number of top performing machines never get used in a way that shows the marginal performance benefits extra thousands will yield. The best way to buy your parts is to wait until what you need shows up at prices you can afford, and of course you will be spending a lot of time shopping that could be spent better doing almost anything else. A part time job to earn the money to buy a good pre-built might make more sense. 
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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/23 12:55:00 (permalink)
Thanks for the replies everyone.  they were all very helpful.  I will let you know what I did.  

ASRock Z97 Pro 4 Motherboard
Chipset : Intel Z97
Intel i7 4790k
32 gb Ballistix (crucial) 1600 DDR3 ram

Corsair 330R case Corsair Rm750 ultra quiet power supply
Win 10 64 bit

Motu 1248 AVB
Mackie Onyx Blackbird 16 x16 FW
Sonar Platinum

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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/23 13:34:10 (permalink)
I built a new system a while back with this case, power supply, and drives = $142.79, not counting CPU, RAM, mobo, and SSD.  That leaves $207.21 in your budget for the rest.  Find a good microATX board, CPU, and RAM for that and you're all set for $350.00 total
 
Rosewill Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case FBM-01  $24.35
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Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 (Black)  $17.79
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Re: Cheap computer build 2017/02/24 08:37:32 (permalink)
You mention using it for Tracking only.  The requirements for tracking are much less than mixing/mastering.
When I track remotely, I do it with an old version of Sonar (8.5) on a dual core laptop and external USB hard drive (7200 RPM is a must!).
 
Then I save the project and bring it into my Sonar Platinum rig at home (which is underpowered according to most people!).  Note that My tracking is AUDIO only and I do not do much MIDI even on my SPLAT rig.
 
If your interface supports it, an older refurbished machine may work for you.

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