Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1

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2017/03/14 21:03:34 (permalink)

Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1

I was running Sonar Studio 8.5.0 until today.  For some reason when I try to import any supported audio format, the audio playback is "choppy".  However, when I run Sonar 2.1 on the same machine, the same piece of audio plays back just fine.  I am on an XP Machine and 8.5 has worked fine in the past.  I updated to 8.5.3 hoping that would solve the issue, but it hasn't.
 
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    bitman
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/14 21:33:12 (permalink)
    Check your audio settings in 8.5
     
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    8.5 was very rock solid for us. I ran countless demos with real bands staring me down with it.
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/14 22:12:05 (permalink)
    Which settings should I be looking at?
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/14 22:14:48 (permalink)
    Buffer size. It's entirely possible that 8.5 needs larger buffers than 2.1 did.


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    . 2017/03/14 22:43:02 (permalink)

    post edited by Caa2 - 2017/03/17 00:49:26


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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/14 22:51:08 (permalink)
    I run Sonar 8.5.3 on a 32-bit Intel Atom-powered weakling netbook to record 28 tracks simultaneously using two Tascam 14-input audio interfaces, so you should get good results, too.
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/15 18:04:04 (permalink)
    I brought the buffer up to 2048K and it still has the issue.
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/15 18:18:57 (permalink)
    So these are only audio files?
     
    I was never able to play the Cakewalk demos because the number of plugs just choked my PC.
     
    But if it's straight audio - very strange.
     
    Edit: does the cursor run smoothly or does it also jump?
    Does it run smoothly on WDM? (latency is horrible, just as a check)
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/15 18:28:16 (permalink)
    That brings up the notion that the keyboard pause key has been pressed. Press pause on the computer keyboard. Its a toggle. 2048 k is a too large for your setup. Too large a buffer is almost as bad as too small. 

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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/15 19:03:36 (permalink)
     I updated to 8.5.3 hoping that would solve the issue, but it hasn't.     
     
    Avast me harties....arrrr...
     
    As a reformed Pirate myself I just can't help but advise the best solution is to upgrade. 
    But if you really are stuck with an old XP computer then 8.5 was the best version for that system and it should work,, but are you using an audio interface? You won't get much to work without one. 

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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/28 19:40:53 (permalink)
    Cursor and mouse both appear to run smoothly.
     
    jpetersen
    So these are only audio files?
     
    I was never able to play the Cakewalk demos because the number of plugs just choked my PC.
     
    But if it's straight audio - very strange.
     
    Edit: does the cursor run smoothly or does it also jump?
    Does it run smoothly on WDM? (latency is horrible, just as a check)




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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/28 19:41:27 (permalink)
    John
    That brings up the notion that the keyboard pause key has been pressed. Press pause on the computer keyboard. Its a toggle. 2048 k is a too large for your setup. Too large a buffer is almost as bad as too small. 


    I pressed 'Pause' and there was no change.
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/28 19:49:36 (permalink)
    I believe I have Realtek High Definition audio card.  (Came with the HP computer.)  However, when I go into my "sound, video and game" part of my Device Manager, I see:
     
    Audio Codecs
    Legacy Audio Drivers
    Legacy Video Capture Devices
    Media Control Devices
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Video Codecs
     
    Is it possible I picked up a virus somehow and these extra drivers are compounding problems?  I don't remember there being so many devices there when I originally installed Sonar 8.
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/28 20:23:17 (permalink)
    I also updated the RealTek firmware and the problem still persists. 
     
    Would you advise re-installing Sonar at this point?
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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/28 21:25:54 (permalink)
    Realtek is not the greatest soundcard. Im surprised you had better results using X2 because X2 did not support Windows XP 's system requirements. With that said, if your only listening to audio and not recording try switching driver modes to MME or WDM. With out a good soundcard your going to have to jump through some hoops to get low latency/ non choppy audio.
     
    When investing in software the second priority should be the soundcard. it is what directly effects the relationship between the software, hardware and PC.
     
    In other words, not a good soundcard= not a stable system.

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    Re: Choppy Audio in 8.5.3 but fine in 2.1 2017/03/28 21:30:01 (permalink)
    Things have changed so it's real hard to trouble shoot. Most of us can only work from memory of issue we had wayyyy back then. But sage advice has always been you need a proper audio interface and most important, good ASIO drivers to have Sonar ( any version) to run smoothly. 
    The issue you are having I would say is because of audio drivers or the lack of so to speak. 
     

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