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2011/05/24 10:35:23 (permalink)

"Chord substitution"..

do you have a favorite you lean on.
Do you apply it?
If so do you consider the bass line?
 
Curious about your thoughts.
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 11:21:53 (permalink)
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 11:37:06 (permalink)
    speaking of such, we had a guitarist once who would substitute basically a I,IV, and V  for anything major 7, sus, aug, 9th, etc....

    he didnt know theory...

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 11:41:20 (permalink)
    I fear I do that... although I wouldn't know. :-)

    And, I took a year of theory for non majors as an elective.

    I think it's a lot more natural for a keyboardist to see the choices while only the better prepared guitarists can really visualize chord forms on a fretboard as easily.


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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 11:54:28 (permalink)
    Mike, I certainly wouldn't lump you in the same category of this guy , he did it out of musical ignorance and a tone deaf ear ....
    we had so many arguments about it, and when he finally quit we found a guitarist/vocalist who even knew passing chords...

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 11:54:37 (permalink)
    i like turning chords upside down, in terms of finger positions.....
    if the normal is down, i move up...
    and vice versa...

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 12:01:40 (permalink)
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    i like turning chords upside down, in terms of finger positions.....
    if the normal is down, i move up...
    and vice versa...


      you'retalking about first, second, and third inversions

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 12:10:18 (permalink)
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    batsbrew


    i like turning chords upside down, in terms of finger positions.....
    if the normal is down, i move up...
    and vice versa...


    you'retalking about first, second, and third inversions


    That's correct. They are not passing chords in that example. addition; nor chord substitutes.
    post edited by spacey - 2011/05/24 13:15:46
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 12:23:08 (permalink)
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 13:06:19 (permalink)
    are we talking passing chords, or chord substitution?

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 13:14:21 (permalink)
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    are we talking passing chords, or chord substitution?

    You're not talking about either but you did notice my post.
    Now I will change it as I know you are reading. You have to admit
    with comments like "partials" I was questioning your intent of participation.
    Although I have quickly become tired of the three topics.
     
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 13:49:41 (permalink)
    questioning your intent of participation. 



    why in the world would you be questioning my intent as being anything other than interested in the topic?

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 13:55:12 (permalink)
    I have a tendency to use Minor 9ths as substitutions.  I wouldn't say I actually lean on them, but it often fits in well with the flow depending on what I'm playing. It gets applied often enough for me to comment on it here. I also like the Maj/Min 13ths.  


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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 14:11:38 (permalink)
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    do you have a favorite you lean on.
    Do you apply it?
    If so do you consider the bass line?
     
    Curious about your thoughts.


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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 14:15:38 (permalink)
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    I write a lot (for two rhythm guitars) of first inversions added to a power chord to define the tonality, and to add interest.
     
    This sounds quite neat with palm muted playing as the lower note of the inversion is the third and not the root.
     
    As far as the bass goes, Am.... end of discussion

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 14:16:50 (permalink)
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    spacey

    If so do you consider the bass line? 


    No.

    Typical.....
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 14:34:44 (permalink)
    For Bass, I recommend a 14lb test line.

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 14:35:30 (permalink)
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    For Bass, I recommend a 14lb test line.

    Tuned to Am, no doubt.
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 15:16:00 (permalink)
    Am is reserved for Tuna ....

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 15:19:37 (permalink)
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    Am is reserved for Tuna ....


    you can tuna fish but you cannot tune an Alembic Bass

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 15:34:37 (permalink)
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    questioning your intent of participation. 



    why in the world would you be questioning my intent as being anything other than interested in the topic?

    I'll try again...having issues posting.
     
    Because your posts did not pertain to the topics. I didn't see humor so I didn't understand and still don't.
    I mentioned that..."partials"  what does harmonics have to do with that topic?
    In this one..what do inversions have to do with it?
    If you can explain that's cool because I posted these to share ideas and learn.
     
     
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 15:49:45 (permalink)
    Spacey If you have any questions bout music theory ask me. I just finished cutting a lawn. Now I sit drinking BEER and pondering what if:

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 16:04:13 (permalink)
    Bill I miss those days ... and actually, if the bass player/my left hand either play the root or the 5th then you can do some nice substitutions on guitar as long as I play the dominant substitution note(s) OR play the foundation with my RH so there is no clash

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 16:04:59 (permalink)
    you can tuna fish but you cannot tune an Alembic Bass

    I'd like to think I have a pretty good ear and can handle  4     4,5 or 6 (fixed) strings, as long as they aren't all Am.
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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 17:35:14 (permalink)
    If you can explain that's cool because I posted these to share ideas and learn. 





    no thanks, i'll step out on this one.



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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 17:41:25 (permalink)
    i love the flat 5 tension.  

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 18:43:03 (permalink)
    I'm very fond of minor 7th chords for transitioning, particularly creating an inversion off the bass line to (try) and tickle some extra harmonics out of the chord.  Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.  




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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/24 20:35:03 (permalink)
    I like 6/9 and 11 chords for substitution.

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/26 18:49:30 (permalink)
    X MINOR DEMOLISHED...
    my favorite substitute.

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    Re:"Chord substitution".. 2011/05/26 18:57:45 (permalink)
    I use chord substitutions all the time.  Rarely on purpose, but that's another discussion.

     
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