Click track issues (Audio click)

Bugs:

• The click sometimes gets out of sync with playback, stopping and restarting corrects it. This happens when a project is playing and I click in the timeline to change playback position.
• When set to have no accent (same sound, same volume) there is still an audible accent in the click.
• I insert a meter/key change, the click doesn't change from that point. eg: the meter is 4/4, I change it to 8/8 'coz the drummer finds a section easier with a faster click.  I then hit record at that point, it counts in (2 measures) with the new click, then plays 2 measures at 4/4 before switching to 8/8.  Drummer completely thrown.

Suggestions/gripes:

• Why can't I turn the click on or off during playback or recording?
• Why can't I "freeze" the click track to an audio track.  This would be very helpful for a drummer to have a practice click identical to the one he is about to spend days recording to. Even Garage band does this apparently!
• Why is there no meter/key view, like the tempo map? It's impossible to see what the meter in any part of a project is without clicking into every bar.
• Why can't the metronome be isolated from the meter. It would be great if it could be set as a multiple of the tempo.
• If I change the meter I am given no indication of when it will revert to the old meter. Maybe an option "change meter for xx measures" or "Revert at measure xx"

That's just about all the dramas I have with the click. Next, time/clip locking!

Kurt

I kept all the points to the click/metronome at least, I have plenty more gripes in other areas!

• Mixed meters is exactly when a count in is most needed, if there wasn't a change from the previous section I'd just do it as a punch in.
• The next two points you made are just sloppy coding, well done Cakewalk.
• I don't want to load a vst to recreate a function the software does by default.  Just be nice if it did it well. Having said that, has anyone written a nice small click track type vst?

Oh, and I did search this forum for mention on click tracks.  None. I didn't think to search the other versions' fora.

To elaborate on the freezing, simply solo the metronome bus and bounce to track.... after you have all your meterand tempo changes mapped outin the tempo view...

brundlefly: i wish every one wouldgoogle before they post...lol

And im not excusing bugs either...

I shall check  then ..

Either way usuing a groove clip is the best option in my opinion..

VigilantSound


brundlefly: i wish every one wouldgoogle before they post...lol

And im not excusing bugs either...

The click track seems to be a poorly implemented afterthought.

Thanks for treating me like an idiot.  It can't be done, I googled, I tried several ways I thought may work. I knew it couldn't be done in the older versions but the feature list for X1 specifically mention click-routing and improvements

Say I insert a new meter (change from 4/4 to 8/8 as in my earlier example) there is no way of knowing in advance when or if it will revert to 4/4. I have been recording drums this week and this has been a real issue.  I assume it puts a meter marker (that I can't see or find mention of in the help file) every time you insert bars, copy/paste bars. Sure, the display shows you once it's playing/recording but it's too late then, I can already hear that it's changed. So can the poor drummer who's trying to lay down a take.  How cool (obvious?) would it be, if you could select an area on the timeline and change the whole selection to 8/8? Or have special markers that show every meter or tempo change on the timeline?

Say I insert a new meter (change from 4/4 to 8/8 as in my earlier example) there is no way of knowing in advance when or if it will revert to 4/4.

A Meter change pertains until the next change. If you want a section to be 8/8, you insert a change at the start, and a change back to the original meter at the end. If you don't insert a change back, the new meter will persist to the end of the project (and beyond). If it changes back unexpectedly, it's probably because you copied a change along with a section of music earlier in the project that contained a meter change. There is a checkbox in the copy dialog to exclude copying meter/key changes if you don't want them.


And, as I mentioned, there is a meter/key view in which you can see and edit exactly what will happen where.



I can see the value in having more obvious markers in the timeline (the beat divisions show the meter, but they might be hard to see at a glance), but it sounds like you're not taking full advantage of the tools that do exist for managing meter changes.

Cool. Glad to help.