Color Schemes

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2010/12/23 09:25:29 (permalink)

Color Schemes

Is there a way to change the color schemes back to the old 8.5 or 8.0 look. I have real trouble seeing detail with the new monochromatic scheme.
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    garrigus
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/23 09:45:44 (permalink)
    Some of the colors can be changed and some cannot because they are "baked" into the interface as images.

    To change colors, press P and choose Customization - Colors in the Preferences dialog box.

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/23 09:48:17 (permalink)
    But just remember when you're doing so that many of the colors WILL NOT change until you restart Sonar.  This is a major PITA.

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/23 09:55:16 (permalink)
    Out of interest, has anyone been able to change the Browser foreground/background colours somehow?

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/23 10:21:30 (permalink)
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    Some of the colors can be changed and some cannot because they are "baked" into the interface as images.

    To change colors, press P and choose Customization - Colors in the Preferences dialog box.

    Scott

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    Scott, this makes me wonder... is this the price we are paying for the fancy gradient fades?

    That seems like to high a price to pay for eye candy.

    I'm wondering when publicly funded studios and teaching institutions are going to take a look at Section 508 to determine if using & teaching SONAR X1 is in compliance.

    best regards,
    mike



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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/23 10:33:57 (permalink)
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    garrigus


    Some of the colors can be changed and some cannot because they are "baked" into the interface as images.

    To change colors, press P and choose Customization - Colors in the Preferences dialog box.

    Scott

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    Scott, this makes me wonder... is this the price we are paying for the fancy gradient fades?

    That seems like to high a price to pay for eye candy.

    I'm wondering when publicly funded studios and teaching institutions are going to take a look at Section 508 to determine if using & teaching SONAR X1 is in compliance.

    best regards,
    mike

    Exactly, we're in to 'skinning' territory here, whereas before it was just simple, single background/foreground colour changes that were easy to implement. Now, you have to supply multiple images of the same UI item (buttons, backgrounds etc) to allow for different colours/designs.
     
    When done well, skinning can be excellent. Here's a great example:
     
    http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/Controls/WinForms/Skins/Gallery.xml
     
    But implementing them takes a loooooong time...
    post edited by benstat - 2010/12/23 10:35:09

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/23 21:51:11 (permalink)
    Thanks, I looked at the option in Preferences and it just didn't do it for me. I really would like the same color schemes that I had in 8.5. Come to think about it there's really not much in X1 that is making me want to stay. I'm going back to 8.5 for awhile.
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 08:47:31 (permalink)
    I wish there were more color options, but I'm not going to stop using the tool because I don't like the colors. 

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 13:02:48 (permalink)
    I have to say I find the colour scheme just a bit depressing...I have heard some saying that if you are using X1 for prolonged periods, then it is more restful on the eye. 

    I love the new screenset functionality, but please give us the option to put back some colour in our lives! Those who like looking at multiple shades of grey and black can continue to do so! 
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 13:31:14 (permalink)
    Again, with colors it is not only about asthetics.  For me, being able to control my track headers and track folders colors is essential to the way I work.  I have all my audio track headers one color...all my midi track headers another...track folders another...and so on.  This helps me, for instance, when I'm recording from my controller keyboard which is across the room from my DAW ( I use a Tranzport to control Sonar).  When I'm moving up and down the track list remotely finding which track to record next all I have to do is look for the midi color to know I'm where I need to be.  Color selection is also critical to those with vision problems.  And different vision problems call for different layout and color solutions.  In this one area alone the inability to control the GUIs color palette shows a total disregard to vision challenged users of Sonar.  In this area X1 has totally eschewed function while concentrating only on form.

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 14:37:46 (permalink)
    I brought in my Sonar 8 colors .I love the way it looks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_RKOVSTN3w .It sure has help me to sound better then I did on 8.5.The pro channel is just what I needed.
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 15:48:58 (permalink)
    I have to say I find the colour scheme just a bit depressing...



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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 19:21:01 (permalink)
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    Again, with colors it is not only about asthetics.  For me, being able to control my track headers and track folders colors is essential to the way I work.  I have all my audio track headers one color...all my midi track headers another...track folders another...and so on.  This helps me, for instance, when I'm recording from my controller keyboard which is across the room from my DAW ( I use a Tranzport to control Sonar).  When I'm moving up and down the track list remotely finding which track to record next all I have to do is look for the midi color to know I'm where I need to be.  Color selection is also critical to those with vision problems.  And different vision problems call for different layout and color solutions.  In this one area alone the inability to control the GUIs color palette shows a total disregard to vision challenged users of Sonar.  In this area X1 has totally eschewed function while concentrating only on form.

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    Just differnt colors from buses tracks and outputs should be usefull ...

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 19:47:08 (permalink)
    That hasn't changed. You can still adjust track and folder text colors in X1.

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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 20:22:02 (permalink)
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    Some of the colors can be changed and some cannot because they are "baked" into the interface as images.

    To change colors, press P and choose Customization - Colors in the Preferences dialog box.

    Scott

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    Scott, this makes me wonder... is this the price we are paying for the fancy gradient fades?

    That seems like to high a price to pay for eye candy.

    I'm wondering when publicly funded studios and teaching institutions are going to take a look at Section 508 to determine if using & teaching SONAR X1 is in compliance.

    best regards,
    mike

    Exactly, we're in to 'skinning' territory here, whereas before it was just simple, single background/foreground colour changes that were easy to implement. Now, you have to supply multiple images of the same UI item (buttons, backgrounds etc) to allow for different colours/designs.
     
    When done well, skinning can be excellent. Here's a great example:
     
    http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/Controls/WinForms/Skins/Gallery.xml
     
    But implementing them takes a loooooong time...


    Not when you get the users involved. Cakewalk would only have to roll out the first one, and could officially only support it. I don;t think the implementation would take all that much longer than the current outdated bitmaps method they use.
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 20:23:36 (permalink)
    I have heard some saying that if you are using X1 for prolonged periods, then it is more restful on the eye.


    It is generally, because it puts me to sleep!
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 20:33:42 (permalink)
    Daveny5, the color issue alone wouldn't make me go back to 8.5 but the fact that I find it hard to see the track info as well (yes I have fifty-something eyesight)as a few other productivity issues have lead me back to 8.5. I will continue to experiment with X1 as I've left it on my computer and who knows, maybe I will find it allows me to be more productive in the future. After all productivity is what new versions are about isn't it, I mean sonically speaking we're not making any advances as far as I can tell.
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/24 20:36:25 (permalink)
    Oh yeah, Jimmitch how did you import your 8.0 color scheme ?
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    Re:Color Schemes 2010/12/25 12:14:35 (permalink)
    Go options colors color category ,drop down,track view,.Then hit export colors I saved them to desktop.Open X1 hit import colors.I was happy to get my 8.0 colors.I never liked the 8.5 colors and the X1 colors are worse.
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    Re:Color Schemes 2011/02/03 12:51:38 (permalink)
    Color management in X1 is a mess. Not only options to tweak new interface elements are absent , but some options has become extinct, that were available in Sonar 8.5. Yet they are still customizable, so why aren't they included im menu???
    For example: where must be an option for time ruler background color (second in clips pane color menu in 8.5) The funny thing is that you can tweak time ruler background in Sonar 8.5, then export/import scheme to X1 and get the color that you want in this way, but why it's not there in X1? 
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    Re:Color Schemes 2011/02/03 14:37:05 (permalink)
    I use the dr phil colour scheme from 8.0 I think and it looks fine. I hate the X1monochrome gradient - so dull and unfriendly and dare I say austere and Soviet.
    Modern can still be funky and fun.

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    Re:Color Schemes 2011/02/04 03:52:31 (permalink)
    +1


    Section 508
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    Some of the colors can be changed and some cannot because they are "baked" into the interface as images.

    To change colors, press P and choose Customization - Colors in the Preferences dialog box.

    Scott

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    Scott, this makes me wonder... is this the price we are paying for the fancy gradient fades?

    That seems like to high a price to pay for eye candy.

    I'm wondering when publicly funded studios and teaching institutions are going to take a look at Section 508 to determine if using & teaching SONAR X1 is in compliance.

    best regards,
    mike




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    Re:Color Schemes 2011/02/04 03:56:27 (permalink)
    i had to do the same thing -- between hidden commands, no over ride for the edit filter + draw duration ... and then the issue with greyed out look on their new GUI ...just not worth it. big hopes that the update will address my problems -- but i'm not gonna hold my breath. 




    . I'm going back to 8.5 for awhile.
    dp2boy


    Thanks, I looked at the option in Preferences and it just didn't do it for me. I really would like the same color schemes that I had in 8.5. Come to think about it there's really not much in X1 that is making me want to stay. I'm going back to 8.5 for awhile.



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    Re:Color Schemes 2011/02/04 07:40:49 (permalink)
    Speaking of colors, I can barely read the font in the drum maps view in PRV but can find no specific way to change it.  Does anyone know how to specifically change the color of the font in the drum maps (PRV) view?  Just changing the color to black would be nice.
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