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Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
The most eagerly-awaited library from OTS since the Rickenbacker bass, EEG Stratosphere, is in beta. No release date has been announced, but it's imminent so start saving your nickels now. Here's a sneak peek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=disz0QdbBrY I am seriously pumped about this one. Hopefully, the intro price will be <= the amount in my penny jar that I'd set aside for Ozone 6.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/05 19:52:50
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The tone in the demo is very convincing, could be another winner from OT.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/05 19:55:21
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Sounds good. As I'm sure you know, 75% or more of that Youtube was the ability of the keyboard player, for sure. I would guess those bends, etc weren't just random or easily velocity sensitive gestures, that the average Joe could make it work as well.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/05 19:59:33
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Now I know how drummers must feel.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/05 23:09:46
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Greg's stuff is always Great but this one is going to be a killer!!! I've been following everything he has released, as it is released, and it sounds like he is pulling out all the stops on this one. Can't wait!!!
And yes, he is also a very talented/gifted keyboard player...
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/06 10:38:10
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IMO the OTS libraries don't lend themselves to live playing as well as some others. You really have to learn the keyswitches, which aren't natural to hit while you've got one hand on the pitch bend and mod wheel. Needless to say, Greg spent a lot of hours practicing while creating the library, long before making that video. It doesn't hurt that Greg's also a fine keyboard player.
When I record guitar solos for sampled guitar, I use one of the canned patches in my synthesizer to monitor while playing so there's no latency. Convincing fake guitar parts are all about the performance, and an important part of that is pitch bend, which is difficult to program after the fact. After I record the MIDI, I then go into the PRV and add keyswitches to make use of the features that my synthesizer doesn't have, such as mutes and hammer-ons (hammers-on?). My OTS EEG parts always require a lot of editing after the initial performance, but I'm almost always happy with the results.
If you want a guitar library that's super-easy to play live - but doesn't have the breadth of expression of EEG - check out Indiginus' Torch and Delta Blues Slide Guitar. These have velocity-switched articulations and just come out sounding nice no matter what you do. And they're cheap: $50 and $40 respectively. I'll be reviewing DBSG in the next issue of SoundBytes, coming out in a couple weeks.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/06 12:47:13
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I too listened to the OT video. I also quickly listened to RealStrat ML to compare. I listened to Voodoo and though I like the sound of it with RealStrat I thought the OT Strat sounded better. More like a Strat to me.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/06 13:07:03
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Yeah - but Eb? Hee hee
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/06 13:47:43
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Doesn't everybody over 50 tune their guitars to Eb or D?
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/06 19:23:05
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If I leave mine set for awhile, It usually tunes itself to Eb... or somewhere in that area.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/07 06:10:41
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I am waiting for this one!
If I recall correctly Greg said there would be a free update for Evolution Strawberry that will utalise the improved engine.
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/07 14:03:12
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Yes, he intends to (later) implement the scripts from the new instrument into Strawberry as well as EAG. It'll reportedly include an improved strum editor, more effects, a new preset browser, better keyswitch mapping, and smoother morphing between velocity layers. Some additional info and a few screenshots in this KVR thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=412571
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/09 14:18:29
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bitflipper
Doesn't everybody over 50 tune their guitars to Eb or D?
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/10 15:13:01
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I'll use my real Strat thankuverymush. 
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Re: Coming Soon: A Strat from Orange Tree Samples
2014/11/10 15:32:15
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bapu
I'll use my real Strat thankuverymush.
Will probably sound great but how will you automate that with midi CC's and change articulations with key switching or velocity not to mention controlling vibrato with aftertouch...? 
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