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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
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Why not include everything else mentioned here? While they are at it fix all the bugs (real and perceived) too. I fail to see the point of this thread but if it makes some one happy, fine by me.
Indeed. Still, from a relativist perspective it is a joy to behold compared to the carnage here of late 
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Thanks for the update. We'll look into your reports.
FYI: We have about 4000 plugins installed on our test machine. I have close to 1400 plugins on my work machine (with waves plugins installed)
THIS is why I love Gibson/Cakewalk. Support right on the forums! Thanks for checking this thread Noel.
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2016/06/08 11:37:29
Cakewalk relies on these forums for testing and support, both for free. If these forums "went dark" as Melodyne's did, new users would flounder fairly quickly. It often makes me wonder the percentage of new users who either do not come here, or come here and leave after one interaction.
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☄ Helpfulby hockeyjx 2016/06/05 14:35:53
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It often makes me wonder the percentage of new users who either do not come here, or come here and leave after one interaction.
Either they are smarter than the average user or "much less" than the average user. 
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4. Chord Track
yes - i would love to have a chord track... and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
Great ideas! Walt
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2016/06/05 12:27:19
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....3) Better multiple controller handling in PRV (no - don't tell me to use automation - CC's can be more flexible)
I agree! I use a lot of controllers to control parameters for instruments like lap slide guitars. Having the ability to have autozoom like we have for tracks would be a great time saver. Or if you could select one or more controller lanes from a list would also work. Walt
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All of these suggestions would be A W E S O M E!!!!!
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mettelus
It often makes me wonder the percentage of new users who either do not come here, or come here and leave after one interaction.
Either they are smarter than the average user or "much less" than the average user.
the "average user" is John, right? or who?
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2016/06/05 14:06:53
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Cakewalk relies on these forums for testing and support, both for free. If these forums "went dark" as Melodyne's did, new users would flounder fairly quickly. It often makes me wonder the percentage of new users who either do not come here, or come here and leave after one interaction.
There is also a Sonar support group on Facebook. Quite often I will see posts there from people who have clearly never visited the Cakewalk forum. These days a lot of people turn to sites like Facebook and Twitter before anything else and do a search there for support rather than Googling for an official forum.
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/06/05 14:39:19
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Either they are smarter than the average user or "much less" than the average user.
Hey, I resemble that remark! LOL
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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
2016/06/05 16:21:37
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Arranger track - locks in tracks/makers/automation below and allows quick move or removal of entire song sections (obviously tracks/automation can be omitted from this if needed)
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Good points... should also "sticky" how to properly Google these forums (simple), and/or upgrade the internal search engine (not likely).
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2016/06/05 17:54:05
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4. Chord Track
yes - i would love to have a chord track... and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
YES
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2016/06/05 19:32:37
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...and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
Cakewalk already has a MIDI FX for detecting chords from MIDI. 
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2016/06/06 06:54:12
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well, it would be awesome if they clarif d that commitment somehow, but it's hardly unexpected, the most tangible part of the huge announcement was the Mac alpha... Go figure!
The announcement said specifically "We’ll introduce a new, highly requested 'ripple editing' function to improve the editing workflow in SONAR. We’ll also streamline the code for better plug-in load balancing, providing optimal performance in large projects containing many plug-ins, and we’ll revamp the comping feature so take management is more user-friendly." As someone who does arranging, uses plug-ins, and uses comping but would use it a whole lot more if it was cleaned up, those seem like pretty important places to start.
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2016/06/06 06:50:14
Zooming Lanes!
Could I really be the only one bothered about the minimum/maximum limits of zoom when vueing Lanes?
A severe discomfort for me ever since Lanes replaced Layers!
Please?
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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
2016/06/05 23:14:37
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SilverBlueMedallion
...and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
Cakewalk already has a MIDI FX for detecting chords from MIDI.
yea but I am talking a chord grid at the top of the rulers area, like the Navigation Bar. This way while tracking you can see the chords as you play. Very helpful! Other DAWs have this chord bar.
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2016/06/06 00:59:03
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You mean like an indication of a chord where the progression changes? I guess I never really noticed that as an issue because just about everything I do has something acidized in there somewhere, which requires entering a pitch marker. Not as elegant as doing it automatically, of course...but I see the chord progression on top of the time ruler, because the loops need that info in order to transpose automatically. Don't forget that Strum also gives a real-time chord readout. Reminds me of following charts on studio sessions 
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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
2016/06/06 06:42:28
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Thanks for the update. We'll look into your reports.
FYI: We have about 4000 plugins installed on our test machine. I have close to 1400 plugins on my work machine (with waves plugins installed)
I've nothing like that number, however.... Might I suggest you consider something along the lines of Logic's plugin manager? It wouldn't translate directly to Windows of course, because Logic uses AUs not a mix of VST2 and 3 and there's the need to define where the plugins are in the drive's directory structure, which there isn't in Logic/OS X, but as a way to assign plugins to locations in the plugin tree I find it much easier to work with Logic's plugin manager than Sonar's. Just please don't emulate Logic's hyper-threading routines (less than ideal) or its crazy restrictive way of handling multiple MIDI inputs by summing everything into one single "sequencer input" port so you only have one MIDI input port (unlike Sonar's selectable ports per input device) and therefore only 16 channels to work with.
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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
2016/06/06 08:52:57
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although not automatic, it is straightforward to place markers with chord names on the ruler.. SilverBlueMedallion
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...and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
Cakewalk already has a MIDI FX for detecting chords from MIDI.
yea but I am talking a chord grid at the top of the rulers area, like the Navigation Bar. This way while tracking you can see the chords as you play. Very helpful! Other DAWs have this chord bar.
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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
2016/06/06 11:45:11
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+1 for plugin manager improvements. As part of this I would like to be able to see the source location of plugins as they are highlighted.
As for choosing plugins from the FX bin, how about either 1) a larger list window, 2) a faster scroll, or 3) a mouse-wheel scroll-able list? I only have 300 plugins and am annoyed by scrolling through categories (organized by Company in my case, and my Melda plugins are really difficult to see/scroll through) - I can't imagine how you even get through 4000 options...
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I have close to 1400 plugins on my work machine (with waves plugins installed)
Where do you find the time to play with all of these?!!!
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2016/06/06 14:27:15
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The drum maps and programming are #1 on my list. Would be cool if the CAL routines for humanization could be built into the piano roll along with the MFX plugs so I don't have to keep switching views to process the effect.
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☄ Helpfulby SilverBlueMedallion 2016/06/06 15:08:54
Mystic38
although not automatic, it is straightforward to place markers with chord names on the ruler..
SilverBlueMedallion
Anderton
SilverBlueMedallion
...and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
Cakewalk already has a MIDI FX for detecting chords from MIDI.
yea but I am talking a chord grid at the top of the rulers area, like the Navigation Bar. This way while tracking you can see the chords as you play. Very helpful! Other DAWs have this chord bar.
Also the chord track in Cubase, if set to follow chord track, if you play a wrong note, it will correct itself to a correct note in the chord. This is true for audio or midi......very handy for guitar players who are not proficient playing keyboards. Also it is a great writing tool, and would be a welcome feature in Splat!
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2016/06/06 14:52:08
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Mystic38
although not automatic, it is straightforward to place markers with chord names on the ruler..
SilverBlueMedallion
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SilverBlueMedallion
...and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
Cakewalk already has a MIDI FX for detecting chords from MIDI.
yea but I am talking a chord grid at the top of the rulers area, like the Navigation Bar. This way while tracking you can see the chords as you play. Very helpful! Other DAWs have this chord bar.
Also the chord track in Cubase, if set to follow chord track, if you play a wrong note, it will correct itself to a correct note in the chord. This is true for audio or midi......very handy for guitar players who are not proficient playing keyboards. Also it is a great writing tool, and would be a welcome feature in Splat!
+1 on that. I am not the best keyboard player in the world, this would help me greatly... BUT there must be a feature to turn that off, because often times I play notes out of the scale.
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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
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bz2838
Mystic38
although not automatic, it is straightforward to place markers with chord names on the ruler..
SilverBlueMedallion
Anderton
SilverBlueMedallion
...and maybe it can 'auto-detect' the chords either from audio or midi.
Cakewalk already has a MIDI FX for detecting chords from MIDI.
yea but I am talking a chord grid at the top of the rulers area, like the Navigation Bar. This way while tracking you can see the chords as you play. Very helpful! Other DAWs have this chord bar.
Also the chord track in Cubase, if set to follow chord track, if you play a wrong note, it will correct itself to a correct note in the chord. This is true for audio or midi......very handy for guitar players who are not proficient playing keyboards. Also it is a great writing tool, and would be a welcome feature in Splat!
+1 on that. I am not the best keyboard player in the world, this would help me greatly... BUT there must be a feature to turn that off, because often times I play notes out of the scale.
You can turn that feature on and off in Cubase. You can choose to either follow the chord or not in any given track.
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Re: "Commitment to Awesomeness" - Upgrading/Replacing Archaic Parts Of The Product
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so now that Cakewalk is "Committed To Awesomeness", I thought maybe we can add our ideas here for parts of the product that are just cumbersome and archaic.
Hopefully the bakers will see this thread.
I will start the list off with:
1. ACT
2. Drum Maps
+1 and please update the drum pane (this is probably the main thing that is preventing me from updating to SPLAT). One specific thing (and I know this has been mentioned in other threads) not to have to resize the drum name column EVERY time you open up the drum pane.
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1. ACT revamp -proper easy to use audio quantising
2. Chord tracks
3. Revamp of the UI. Icons too big, poor use of real estate in terms of visible tracks etc. More scalable.
4. Scrolling project window
5. Extract tempo from midi and audio - never really worked properly
6. CPU use per plugin
7. Note expression
8. Panorama integration
9. Score editor
10. Sample editor
11. Bring back sonitus for 64 bit!
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