KidlupE93
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Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
I have Sonar X1 Producer and im running it on a HP Pavilion Elite (64-bit) with Windows 7 with an AMD Phenom II X6 1045T Processor (2.70 GHz) and 8 GB of RAM. The sound card in my computer is a ALC888S-V. I had another thread talking about my equipment not working correctly with this program and some people came to a conclusion that my sound card was the issue. I was wondering if there is any compatible PCI Express x1 sound-cards that are compatible with Sonar x1?
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 04:27:02
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The E-MU 1212M PCIe and similars in the serie are good ones
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JonD
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 05:48:01
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PCIe is fine, but don't rule out USB... In fact, you're likely to have fewer issues there than with firewire (All other things being equal, USB2 is more likely to work "out of the box" than FW, since you don't typically have to worry about compatible chipsets).
Roland Octa-Capture is a nice USB unit, and happens to be made by the parent company of CW -- but it is a bit pricey. You don't mention your budget...?
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 09:32:36
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There are lesser dollar versions of the Octa-Capture. There is the Quad and I think one more. The OC is a really great interface though. The E-MU stuff works well but it not in the same league.
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 09:47:00
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I use the M-Audio Audiophile 192 with Windows 7. Been using it since XP with no problems. You won't find better specs on any card out there. I use a small mixer with it and have all the i/o I need.
USB interfaces are more definitely user friendly but I have problems getting the volume I want out of them. Have a M-Audio Fast Track Pro sitting in the box that has rarely been used.
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 11:11:52
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 11:26:31
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Twigman
RME HDSPe AIO - the PCI-e equivalent of the HDSP9632PCI which I use...if Carlsberg made soundcards...
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_aio.php
This is what I just don't get. What makes this RME card worth $800 and the EMu card $169? (I own a prehistoric RME 9652 so I don't know any better. it's invisible to me) Especially if all you need is adat ??
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 11:59:42
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This is what I just don't get. What makes this RME card worth $800 and the EMu card $169? (I own a prehistoric RME 9652 so I don't know any better. it's invisible to me) Especially if all you need is adat ?? It's the same as, "What makes a Neuman mic worth 5 times the price of a decent Shure/Rode/AGK/Studio Projects?" With RME, you've got the known top-performer. Literally everything they make performs well. Rock-solid drivers... and low round-trip latency. You're paying for that performance/reputation. Just like buying a Neuman mic...  With an audio interface, the best advice I can give is to go with a known proven-performer. Go with a unit that has an established rock-solid reputation... and your odds of a trouble-free DAW go up exponentially. Pick the right unit... and it won't matter if it's PCIe, USB, or Firewire (always use a quality TI chipset controller if you go FW). ie: The RME Babyface can operate at a 48-sample ASIO buffer size. If connected to a fast (well-configured) DAW, you can sustain substantial loads glitch-free. Total round-trip latency is 4.9ms at 44.1k. That's better than many PCI/e units. @OP: Decide what you need as far as I/O. Do you need mic preamps? What is your budget? Narrow your focus, then choose a unit that fits (preferably one with a proven track-record).
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lfm
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 12:01:40
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timidi
Twigman
RME HDSPe AIO - the PCI-e equivalent of the HDSP9632PCI which I use...if Carlsberg made soundcards...
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_aio.php
This is what I just don't get. What makes this RME card worth $800 and the EMu card $169?
(I own a prehistoric RME 9652 so I don't know any better. it's invisible to me)
Especially if all you need is adat ??
What you get is x64 support for W7 with these cards mentioned. The zero cpu technology of RME internal cards is excellent. What makes one card more expensive then others - is what you are asking? To maintain highest possible quality of A/D-conversions accuracy in clockrate is one thing to mention. And wordclock support if having plenty hardware stuff. I went for HDSP 9632 since I found one second hand and then an extension card for 4 extra inputs, making it 6 input. Otherwise it would have been the HDSPe AIO too. I ran 9636 on XP in my old daw and 32-bit with no issues what so ever. And so far no problems with HDSP 9632 either. If to look for external soundcard I would go USB rather than firewire stuff. Maybe RME Babyface. They lowered latency on USB to lower valus the seen before.
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KidlupE93
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 14:28:53
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Will a USB interface work the same as a PCI? As in will it basically recognize it as another sound-card?
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 14:44:07
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Yes, a good USB audio interface will function exactly the same as a PCI/e unit.
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KidlupE93
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 14:47:49
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aleef
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 18:14:36
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Kidlup with your dilema you should only be trying to get in the ballpark. the M-audio fast track USB is in your price range, and a good starter unit..and you should have some cash left over for the cables you will need. there are many more options in your price range, that will pretty much do the same thing, do your research.. right now all you need is something cheap and hassle free..
good luck man..
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KidlupE93
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 18:17:47
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Ya i was looking at a whole bunch of interfaces. Im still kinda new to all the different equipment. I think ima go with the fast track tho.
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timidi
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 18:41:26
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lfm
timidi
Twigman
RME HDSPe AIO - the PCI-e equivalent of the HDSP9632PCI which I use...if Carlsberg made soundcards...
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_aio.php
This is what I just don't get. What makes this RME card worth $800 and the EMu card $169?
(I own a prehistoric RME 9652 so I don't know any better. it's invisible to me)
Especially if all you need is adat ??
What you get is x64 support for W7 with these cards mentioned.
The zero cpu technology of RME internal cards is excellent.
What makes one card more expensive then others - is what you are asking?
To maintain highest possible quality of A/D-conversions accuracy in clockrate is one thing to mention. And wordclock support if having plenty hardware stuff.
I went for HDSP 9632 since I found one second hand and then an extension card for 4 extra inputs, making it 6 input. Otherwise it would have been the HDSPe AIO too.
I ran 9636 on XP in my old daw and 32-bit with no issues what so ever. And so far no problems with HDSP 9632 either.
If to look for external soundcard I would go USB rather than firewire stuff. Maybe RME Babyface. They lowered latency on USB to lower valus the seen before.
Sorry if I'm highjacking this thread. Anyway, I think maybe that all I need is a clean adat in/out pass thru to interface from/to my digital mixer (Panasonic DA7) to my computer. To me, my mixer is my sound card. I'm unclear as to what adat is. But, it would seem to me that it is simply a transfer medium of the 1s and 0s processed by my mixer and that any pre-amps or converters or "sound creation stuff" would not be an issue as that is all handled by my mixer? So, I'm thinking what's the downside of a cheapy card? drivers? Reading threads about sound cards etc. always leaves me scratching my head because, most of the time, they are about audio cards that offer some type of analog input/output. Hence, converters, latency, sound quality etc. Am I thinking correctly? If so, what parameters would come into play? I hope this makes sense. Thanks for any wisdom.
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A1MixMan
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 18:45:45
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I'm using an RME Multiface II PCI-e card with X1 and it works great. The main thing to check is rock solid drivers and RME is one of the best in this area.
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Mystic38
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 20:00:06
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Personally i would not bother with an in-computer sound card.. it makes maximum sense to have low level signals as far away from the computer as possible. I have a similar system as you and went for a USB Audio interface.. in my case the NI Komplete Audio 6.. simple to setup and completely flawless in operation.. balanced i/o and i can take it with me and the laptop if i travel :)
KidlupE93
I have Sonar X1 Producer and im running it on a HP Pavilion Elite (64-bit) with Windows 7 with an AMD Phenom II X6 1045T Processor (2.70 GHz) and 8 GB of RAM. The sound card in my computer is a ALC888S-V. I had another thread talking about my equipment not working correctly with this program and some people came to a conclusion that my sound card was the issue. I was wondering if there is any compatible PCI Express x1 sound-cards that are compatible with Sonar x1?
HPE-580T with i7-950, 8G, 1.5T, ATI6850, Win7/64, Motu 828 III Hybrid, Motu Midi Express, Sonar Platinum, Komplete 9, Ableton Live 9 & Push 2, Melodyne Editor and other stuff, KRK VXT8 Monitors Virus Ti2 Polar, Fantom G6, Yamaha S70XS, Novation Nova, Novation Nova II, Korg MS2000, Waldorf Micro Q, NI Maschine Studio, TC-VoiceLive Rack, 2012 Gibson Les Paul Standard, 2001 Gibson Les Paul DC, 1999 Fender Am Hardtail Strat, Fender Blues Jr, Orange TH30/PPC212, Tak EF360GF, one mic, no talent.
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aleef
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/10 22:53:58
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it makes maximum sense to have low level signals as far away from the computer as possible. Why?? i have a soundcard going to a 16/4 channel outboard mixer. i still have alot of my old rackmount gear and whatnot. i like to have control of the signals and levels at the source. fender bass and mics are low level signals, and we track right in front of the computer everyday without issue.
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Mystic38
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/11 07:59:12
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umm, you are doing exactly what i suggest.......... your low level signals are terminated at your mixer.
aleef
it makes maximum sense to have low level signals as far away from the computer as possible.
Why??
i have a soundcard going to a 16/4 channel outboard mixer. i still have alot of my old rackmount gear and whatnot. i like to have control of the signals and levels at the source. fender bass and mics are low level signals, and we track right in front of the computer everyday without issue.
HPE-580T with i7-950, 8G, 1.5T, ATI6850, Win7/64, Motu 828 III Hybrid, Motu Midi Express, Sonar Platinum, Komplete 9, Ableton Live 9 & Push 2, Melodyne Editor and other stuff, KRK VXT8 Monitors Virus Ti2 Polar, Fantom G6, Yamaha S70XS, Novation Nova, Novation Nova II, Korg MS2000, Waldorf Micro Q, NI Maschine Studio, TC-VoiceLive Rack, 2012 Gibson Les Paul Standard, 2001 Gibson Les Paul DC, 1999 Fender Am Hardtail Strat, Fender Blues Jr, Orange TH30/PPC212, Tak EF360GF, one mic, no talent.
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lfm
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Re:Compatible PCI Express x1 Sound-Cards
2011/08/11 08:32:56
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timidi
lfm
timidi
Twigman
RME HDSPe AIO - the PCI-e equivalent of the HDSP9632PCI which I use...if Carlsberg made soundcards...
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_aio.php
This is what I just don't get. What makes this RME card worth $800 and the EMu card $169?
(I own a prehistoric RME 9652 so I don't know any better. it's invisible to me)
Especially if all you need is adat ??
What you get is x64 support for W7 with these cards mentioned.
The zero cpu technology of RME internal cards is excellent.
What makes one card more expensive then others - is what you are asking?
To maintain highest possible quality of A/D-conversions accuracy in clockrate is one thing to mention. And wordclock support if having plenty hardware stuff.
I went for HDSP 9632 since I found one second hand and then an extension card for 4 extra inputs, making it 6 input. Otherwise it would have been the HDSPe AIO too.
I ran 9636 on XP in my old daw and 32-bit with no issues what so ever. And so far no problems with HDSP 9632 either.
If to look for external soundcard I would go USB rather than firewire stuff. Maybe RME Babyface. They lowered latency on USB to lower valus the seen before.
Sorry if I'm highjacking this thread.
Anyway, I think maybe that all I need is a clean adat in/out pass thru to interface from/to my digital mixer (Panasonic DA7) to my computer.
To me, my mixer is my sound card. I'm unclear as to what adat is. But, it would seem to me that it is simply a transfer medium of the 1s and 0s processed by my mixer and that any pre-amps or converters or "sound creation stuff" would not be an issue as that is all handled by my mixer? So, I'm thinking what's the downside of a cheapy card? drivers?
Reading threads about sound cards etc. always leaves me scratching my head because, most of the time, they are about audio cards that offer some type of analog input/output. Hence, converters, latency, sound quality etc.
Am I thinking correctly? If so, what parameters would come into play?
I hope this makes sense.
Thanks for any wisdom.
I see what you mean. You are thinking correctly then. If using more than one ADAT interface I think you need wordclock sync between everything. So check that out on the card you are interested in. HDSP 9632 is two analog inputs only, but also one ADAT in and out as standard also. Extension card with one extra ADAT is available but I'm not sure how many channels you are going for. The 9652 that you mention had two ADAT in and out as standard. One ADAT is 8 24/48 channels, or 4 24/96 channels and it's optical.
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