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2012/10/19 18:21:59 (permalink)

Computer Cleaning Time

I like to dismantle mine and give it a good cleaning about every 6 months

After todays I believe Im gonna hit it like every 3 months.  Wasnt to bad with only a few dust bunnies hoppin' around inside but it made a world of difference on how quiet the machine got after firing it back up.

About messed up though trying to get the CPU heat sink and fan back on.  Screw driver slipped and raked across the board  , thank goodness I didnt hurt it.


Anyway, winters coming, and between the dust in the PCB's and humidity, better do it now and get ahead of the static games hurting it.


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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 18:26:18 (permalink)
    I like (the other) Craig's approach better.  Just buy a new kick-butt machine.

     
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 18:29:13 (permalink)
    I take mine out to the garage every few months and hit it really good with the air compressor. I don't take the heat sink and fan off because I just don't like messing around with the CPU.

    It's amazing what comes out of the fans and power supply.

    When I build the recording room we were talking about in the other thread, I was thinking of putting the DAW outside of the room and using a wireless keyboard, mouse, and a junction in the wall for everything else I'll need.

    Besides keeping it totally silent in the room, it should stay a lot cleaner ... dust is mostly made up of dead skin. Icky. :)
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 18:52:46 (permalink)
    craigb


    I like (the other) Craig's approach better.  Just buy a new kick-butt machine.


    My old box needs cleaning. I'm having trouble discerning which is the magic dust and which is just static fuzz.

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 20:29:09 (permalink)
    Crg


    craigb


    I like (the other) Craig's approach better.  Just buy a new kick-butt machine.


    My old box needs cleaning. I'm having trouble discerning which is the magic dust and which is just static fuzz.

    Most people smoke the magic dust.


    just sayin'
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 20:43:13 (permalink)
    You shouldn't take the heat sink/fan off nor remove the CPU. Not much is gonna get in there anyway and unless you are properly removing and replacing the thermal paste you are gonna degrade the sink/fans ability to cool the processor. Also those components tend to be the more finicky parts to dink around with which can lead to stuff like screwdrivers gouging into to things that won't like it as you said. 

    Just blast the fan with compressed air and that'll take care of that. Sure remove cards and whatnot but even then the contacts are in place so not much is going to get in there. You can get those little computer micro vacs to get most of that crap out and then loosen up the rest with compressed air (then vacuum that crud out). If you start doing it every few months you shouldn't even need to pull anything apart. Also if it's getting that dusty consider an air cleaner in your computer room and some dust blocking mesh for your case vents. 

    But yeah... thermal paste dude. Once you pull the sink of you gotta completely remove and replace it. 
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 20:48:45 (permalink)
    Beepster,

    Some CPU heat sinks have removable fans without having to remove the heatsink from the CPU. 

    I have said heat sink.

    FYI.
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 21:00:12 (permalink)
    Ah yes. My Noctua does as well (two fans on the sides actually) but probably still best to leave the CPU in place especially with pin style (which after reading his specs is not an issue but still might expose the contacts to damage or other stuff like finger poop).

    IDK... I read that as him taking the whole thing apart. I'm a little spaced at the moment so I might be conjuring up non issues in my freaky deaky noodle.
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 21:06:50 (permalink)
    Well the heat sink is about the size of a grape fruit.  Easily unclips.  The fins will get plugged with real fine dust so its a necessity in my book. As for the fan it just has 4 small tab locks that it slides right out of.  I think it actually took longer to pull the side panel that had 1 thumb screw off than it did to remove it all including the video card and 4 sticks of memory.  

    I would use air to help but my past experience (On postal equipment has taught me NOT to do it). Ive seen it trash hard drives and other drives and not much ya can do when that baby powder sized dust get in it.


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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 21:10:15 (permalink)
    LOL Just caught the vac thing,

    Yeh I have a nice connection and attachments for my monster shop vac.  That and a nice soft brush did it good.

    Yes I tore it all the way down.  Nothing like reseating all the cards to get a good connection established again as well IMO




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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 21:29:25 (permalink)
    hmm... but what about the thermal paste stuff? Just don't want to see your CPU overheat. Cheers.
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/19 21:58:13 (permalink)
    Beepster


    hmm... but what about the thermal paste stuff? Just don't want to see your CPU overheat. Cheers.


    Yeah, I was wondering about that one too...

     
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 00:50:48 (permalink)
    The last time I cleaned mine, I found Jimmy Hoffa.  I'm overdue, now.  I wonder if I'll discover Amelia Earhardt this time.  

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 01:27:18 (permalink)
    digi2ns

    I would use air to help but my past experience (On postal equipment has taught me NOT to do it). Ive seen it trash hard drives and other drives and not much ya can do when that baby powder sized dust get in it.
    HDD's are sealed pretty darn good. If you're able to get dust inside of one, it's time for it to be replaced anyway.

    CD burners and things like that you have to be careful with ... kind of. I mean, you can get a Blu-Ray burner/player for $70 bux now days.

    As for reseating everything on a regular basis ... now that's something that's come back to haunt me.

    I always plug the power supply in and wear a grounding strap ... that way the nice little 30KVDC static discharge has somewhere to go other than dissipating on my motherboard and HDD's.

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 01:29:49 (permalink)
    Old55

    The last time I cleaned mine, I found Jimmy Hoffa.  I'm overdue, now.  I wonder if I'll discover Amelia Earhardt this time.
    The last time I blew mine out (my computer that is), the dust filled the air in my garage and it smelled like the pine scented candles we had lit at Christmas from several months before. Amazing how they suck stuff in (my computer that is).


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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 01:40:29 (permalink)
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    Old55

    The last time I cleaned mine, I found Jimmy Hoffa.  I'm overdue, now.  I wonder if I'll discover Amelia Earhardt this time.
    The last time I blew mine out (my computer that is), the dust filled the air in my garage and it smelled like the pine scented candles we had lit at Christmas from several months before. Amazing how they suck stuff in (my computer that is).

    So true.  

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 01:42:41 (permalink)
     Beepster - but what about the thermal paste stuff? Just don't want to see your CPU overheat. Cheers.
    -- A little dab will do ya'  LOL  Gotta use it regardless I think


    Bub - HDD's are sealed pretty darn good. If you're able to get dust inside of one, it's time for it to be replaced anyway
    -- Yeh its been about 12 years since my last bad air experience, Im sure things have gotten a lot better now.  Ive mostly been living the life Crg recommends, just buy new and be done but Im kinda hard headed and cheap now in retirement.  


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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 02:12:26 (permalink)
    Old55


    The last time I cleaned mine, I found Jimmy Hoffa.  I'm overdue, now.  I wonder if I'll discover Amelia Earhardt this time.  

    It would be more financially rewarding if you found D.B. Cooper...
     
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 03:10:14 (permalink)
    It's so easy to get into my tower via the one-screw sliding panel that I'm surprised I don't clean the thing more often. I did it today though. I revamped my studio by putting up a stack of new shelves, threw away a bunch of junk, dismantled an old bookcase and lugged it down 5 flights of stairs, organized all of my old paperwork into ring binders, polished the floor, flipped my mattress, put up some new hooks for my cans, screwed a swish new kitchen paper holder to the wall...so I thought why not finish with a computer clean. What a great feeling. I topped it all off with a very rare splosh of vodka and drunk-ordered the PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier. 

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 06:06:28 (permalink)
    HAHA   Nice Sharke

    Does make for a good feeling kinda like starting fresh again not to mention the anticipation of getting to play with a new toy  


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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 08:14:07 (permalink)
    For my last build I got a positive air pressure case, it's made so it only blows out and the intake where it pulls air in from has 4 large filters.

    I've opened it a few times just to check, after a year now I hadn't had to clean it, almost no dust inside, just gotta remember to clean the filters once in a while.

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 09:47:32 (permalink)
    Cleaning the dust bunnies out..... that is important. 


    I just went to a site on a service call..... new server.... (installed in August 2012) and the air intakes were just about closed off with dust.... the exhaust vents were the same and had dust webs waving in the breeze..... 



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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 09:58:21 (permalink)
    For those who like blowing air from air compressors set it so it is not too strong otherwise you can damage the more delicate things inside. 

    Also it is not a great idea to let the fans spin up to the very high speed they sometimes reach when using a source of powerful compressed air. The fans would never reach those speeds under any normal operating conditions and it is possible to damage them as a result. Just stop the fans from turning either by hand or wedging a small screwdriver/gaffa etc  into the blades so they won't move. Remember to take it out though!

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 13:05:26 (permalink)
    If you're using those little spray cans of compressed air, it's also important to be careful of the moisture they can sometimes spit out. I always make sure to keep the can fully upright (less moisture escapes) and I always leave the computer alone for at least a couple of hours before switching back on. 

    What I can't prevent, however, are the baffling problems which always occur when I unplug everything from my tower and then put it all back together. Last night when I did it, the wireless mouse wouldn't work until I'd moved the receiver dongle around a few USB ports. Then, the wireless keyboard's caps button was reversed so that caps on was really caps off. Plus a left mouse button click was registering as a middle mouse button click. To top it all off, my M-Audio interface was not being recognized by Sonar. Got it all working again via the usual combination of random groping about in the dark interspersed with lots of cursing and "why me's"
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 13:31:45 (permalink)
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    If you're using those little spray cans of compressed air, it's also important to be careful of the moisture they can sometimes spit out. I always make sure to keep the can fully upright (less moisture escapes) and I always leave the computer alone for at least a couple of hours before switching back on. 


    That's not moisture.. while it is a liquid, trust me... it's not water. The temperature drops as a result of evaporation and water vapor will then condense out of the air,,,, fisrt as frost and then water.   Gas duster, also known as canned air or compressed air, is a product used for cleaning electronic equipment and other sensitive devices that cannot be cleaned using water. Despite the name "canned air," the cans actually contain gases that are much easier to compress into liquids, such as difluroethane, trifluroethane, or tetrafluroethane.   hydrocarbons, like butane, were often used in the past, but their flammable nature forced manufacturers to use flurocarbons.


    I use that stuff all the time to clean smoke detectors in my line of work. It works well on computers too for dust removal. Turning the can upside down allows the liquid gas to be released. It evaporates extremely rapidly at room temperature and as a result, super cools that it touches. It will also remove warts and skin tags much cheaper than a medical professional will do and just as efficiently.



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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 13:47:08 (permalink)
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    For my last build I got a positive air pressure case, it's made so it only blows out and the intake where it pulls air in from has 4 large filters.

    I've opened it a few times just to check, after a year now I hadn't had to clean it, almost no dust inside, just gotta remember to clean the filters once in a while.

    Ive considered taking a road case and making it a filtered box as well.  In my last line of work, all computers and servers were encased and filtered.  Sure kept things nice and neat not to mention the ease of transporting everything at once when taking it out on the road to record with.


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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 20:25:13 (permalink)
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    Crg


    craigb


    I like (the other) Craig's approach better.  Just buy a new kick-butt machine.


    My old box needs cleaning. I'm having trouble discerning which is the magic dust and which is just static fuzz.

    Most people smoke the magic dust.


    just sayin'


    Hence my problem, cough, cough.

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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 21:12:53 (permalink)
    I work on friends computers from time to time. I was working on it and it just wouldn't turn on. Nothing. Open it up, see TONS of dust bunnies and clean it out. Vacuum and air. Turned it on and all was well. People underestimate the cleaning, but more power to ya! :D
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/20 22:30:08 (permalink)
    Now THIS, my friends, is a dusty computer. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diCvsKmDsng
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    Re:Computer Cleaning Time 2012/10/21 00:17:28 (permalink)
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    Now THIS, my friends, is a dusty computer. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diCvsKmDsng

    A tad bit of humidity and that would have been trash, IF it isnt already


    Thats why all ours were encased and filtered.  USPS is nothing but a dust factory that isnt maintained.  Of course its been a number of years since I retired so it might have gotten better-JUST NOT MY PROBLEM NOW  


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