karma1959
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Console view constantly needs resizing?
Hi all,
Something's bugged me for quite some time, through many releases in the X series and now continues with Platinum. I have a dual monitor setup - one screen dedicated for the Track view and the other for the console view. Whenever I open a project, the console view appears a bit smaller than when I saved it at full size of that screen. I can resize it to take up the whole screen again, save the project - and when it's next opened again - it's smaller again. Oddly, the width never changes, it's just the height - it always becomes about an inch or so shorter, cutting off the top of the console view.
It happens in all projects for me and through many versions of Sonar. It's not a big deal, just annoys me a bit. Has anyone else ever noticed this?
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/07 16:16:16
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/07 19:11:49
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Yes... Jonesey has the right idea...
I simply dedicate one of my screensets to a console view (typically "0") then switch back and forth by hitting the two dofferent screenset numbers...
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/07 20:25:05
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karma1959
...I have a dual monitor setup - one screen dedicated for the Track view and the other for the console view. Whenever I open a project, the console view appears a bit smaller than when I saved it at full size of that screen. I can resize it to take up the whole screen again, save the project - and when it's next opened again - it's smaller again. Oddly, the width never changes, it's just the height - it always becomes about an inch or so shorter, cutting off the top of the console view.
It happens in all projects for me and through many versions of Sonar...
I can confirm that you are not alone. The Console View window used to behave this way all the time for me in Sonar 7 after I added a second monitor. The window would only resize itself if it was in the second screen when the project was saved. I saw similar behaviour in X2 but not so much in X3. Aside from CV, none of the other Views ever seem to have this problem. I believe it's a bug.
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karma1959
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/07 22:27:08
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Yes, I use screensets, but if I recall correctly, that doesn't have an effect - meaning, I resize the console view, so it's proper, save the screenset, and still, upon reopening the project, the console view is shorter than it should be. Maybe I'll submit a query into Cakewalk tech support to get their view.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/08 01:47:31
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I didn't ever report the problem because I wasn't using the latest version of Sonar and I assumed that it probably would have already been fixed.
This thread is looking like a good candidate for the Problem Reports forum.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/08 02:46:33
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karma1959
Yes, I use screensets, but if I recall correctly, that doesn't have an effect - meaning, I resize the console view, so it's proper, save the screenset, and still, upon reopening the project, the console view is shorter than it should be. Maybe I'll submit a query into Cakewalk tech support to get their view.
Hmmm... I wonder which difference is causing this? My templates all have CV open and maximized in screenset 0 (10) and it works on all my old and new projects... Are you certain the screenset isn't locked? If it was locked whike minimized it would re-open minimzed... Keni
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/08 02:49:19
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karma1959
Yes, I use screensets, but if I recall correctly, that doesn't have an effect - meaning, I resize the console view, so it's proper, save the screenset, and still, upon reopening the project, the console view is shorter than it should be. Maybe I'll submit a query into Cakewalk tech support to get their view.
hHow are you saving the screenset? The only way that I know of is to unlock it, relock it, then save the project.
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karma1959
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/08 08:06:19
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Hi guys,
I don' think it has anything to do with the screensets. I've tried unlocking the screenset, resizing the CV, relocking the screenset & saving the project to no avail - it still comes up a bit shorter whenever it's reopened.
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karma1959
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/08 08:08:34
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Oddly enough, the CV also resizes automatically (resulting in it being too short) whenever I insert or change an icon at the bottom of a track in the CV. (e.g. inserting a picture of a guitar or piano for an audio track).
Does that happen for anybody else?
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2015/08/08 08:52:08
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karma1959
I don' think it has anything to do with the screensets...
The problem existed long before screensets were introduced into Sonar. However it is possible that the use of screensets somehow changes the behaviour of the CV window in such a way that masks the problem.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:23:28
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The same thing has happened with me for many versions. I also have dual monitors. I'm constantly having to resize the height of the console view after adding an icon to a track or bus in the console view, or opening a project.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:29:29
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The only thing I can think of is something went funky in the template I use for most projects. When creating something with a blank template, the issue doesn't manifest itself. I've recreated my default template from scratch and haven't had the issue since. You may want to try that.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:34:02
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I hadn't thought of that. Great idea.
I guess any songs created with the template will be forever resizing?
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:39:15
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I assume so, unless you try copying and pasting all the clips into a new project with a new template. I don't know where the corruption occurred, so not sure if it will follow along with the copy / paste - but it's worth a try.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:41:05
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I wonder if an option/value could be added to the initialization file to stop the height resizing?
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:51:22
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Do both monitors have the same resolution?
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karma1959
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:54:41
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in my case, yes - they're identical.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 13:56:05
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Yes 2560x1440.
It happened when I had my previous monitors as well. 1920x1080.
I can't remember if it happened with my 1600x1200 monitors or not. I think so, but not completely sure.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 14:57:39
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open your template and try re saving it again as a new template with a new name.
especially if the templates are from older versions of sonar, even same versions, many updates later.
this has solved the issue for me.
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Re: Console view constantly needs resizing?
2016/11/09 15:51:08
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cool.. will give that a try.. thx
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