DrLumen
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Continue to Sell
Just throwing this out but it would be possible for CW to continue selling Sonar. They may need to load it with disclaimers that the rolling updates are no more and, perhaps, no support except for the forums.
I know they couldn't do the monthly subscriptions but there may be some that will buy the 'full' versions. Maybe knock some bucks off. It could generate some revenue while in the death throws.
This is what Sony did to Acid. They had quit developing it and continued to sell it. About once a year I would get an email where they knocked another $40 off or something. It would still likely be up for sale if SonyCreative weren't bought out.
Just a thought...
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/04 18:36:28
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Cakewalk can do whatever Gibson allows them to do. The Cakewalk store is closed.
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/04 18:43:02
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They COULD continue to sell existing products but the decision to not sell seems pretty firm.
My guess is nobody is available to support sales when such support might be needed. I'm also guessing that the third party payment providers did not want to support sales of inactive products. Internet sales of corporate product by a legal entity like a corporation can require a lot of background activity. It's not impossible but selling does require additional resources that Gibson chose not to provide.
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THambrecht
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/04 18:51:06
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If you sale a product, you have to give support and warranty.
The only way is to give it away as freeware.
We don't know what Gibson does with the code - and we don't know what Gibson really owns.
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/04 22:21:06
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Totally agree. They can sell it as it is for many years. Like other discontinued VST plugins. Like tons of games in Steam. I have Cakewalk Music Creator 6 from 2011, it has no online updates or patches, and still works fine. Windows as a software platform has good backward compatibility with old software. Digital sales are mostly automated nowadays, and even if they need some work, it will be payed by revenue.
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armodeus
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/05 00:27:52
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Exactly, there are tons of old and abandoned software and media selling on steam, and many original studios/devs don't even exist any more and people can still buy them on steam, origin, gog and other platforms. People are still buying tons of old/abandoned software without real "support and warranty". With the Only warranty that you have 2 hours to refund it if you do not like it and if you are lucky. Hilarious! Steam can do that with cakewalk's stuff too.
post edited by armodeus - 2017/12/05 06:08:31
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/05 06:38:56
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DrLumen
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/05 08:06:14
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armodeus
Exactly, there are tons of old and abandoned software and media selling on steam, and many original studios/devs don't even exist any more and people can still buy them on steam, origin, gog and other platforms.
People are still buying tons of old/abandoned software without real "support and warranty". With the Only warranty that you have 2 hours to refund it if you do not like it and if you are lucky. Hilarious! Steam can do that with cakewalk's stuff too.
Good point. I had forgotten about Good Old Games. They live off long abandoned programs. Plus, there is no reason that CW can't continue to sell the plugins, VSTI's and libraries for DimPro and Rapture or whatever.
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/05 12:41:38
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☄ Helpfulby mudgel 2017/12/06 23:54:54
As it is known Cakewalk has been costing Gibson, Gibson has been costing Gibson LOL
it stands as conjecture that shutting Cakewalk might be only a temporary measure to end the financial severed artery of contractural / legal obligations to the company known as Cakewalk.
Meanwhile a team is gathered to present the products under a new banner to the benefit of current Cakewalk product owners and supporters and a massive marketing and promotion campaign to make it known bundled with hardware, controllers and interfaces under Tascam for the Consumer/Prosumer market.
Sonar's new name will be Tascam/Teac and revive their origins in the recording Industry.
I should get a job at Gibson LOL
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mudgel
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/06 23:56:28
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Craig A wrote somewhere on the forum that similar things were suggested before the plug was pulled and (Henry) or Gibson wasn’t interested.
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/07 00:04:55
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It's never coming back... But it could be a conspiracy; Henry could have cut a deal with the other DAW manufacturers to get us to buy replacement DAWs then he plans to reopen cakewalk as a double whammy e.g corporate win win scenario. :-)
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/07 01:50:02
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Cakewalk is not selling the software from their website any longer. When you attempt to buy the software from their website, you receive the Gibson Cakewalk Announcement with no option to continue further.
Purchasing Software from a retailer or any other website other than Cakewalk.com is not Cakewalk's responsibility.
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/07 02:45:28
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THambrecht
If you sale a product, you have to give support and warranty.
The only way is to give it away as freeware.
We don't know what Gibson does with the code - and we don't know what Gibson really owns.
Thumbs Up on the freeware idea. It's sort of interesting.....the Idea. But, What happens to the DAW market. Why do we need Cubase of Pro Tools or all the rest, when you can get Sonar for free. But,I like the Idea. Losing Cakewalk is like losing my best girlfriend and I'm in the mood for shoving the world around. 
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/07 03:52:02
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rabeach
It's never coming back... But it could be a conspiracy; Henry could have cut a deal with the other DAW manufacturers to get us to buy replacement DAWs then he plans to reopen cakewalk as a double whammy e.g corporate win win scenario. :-)
Or, strengthen guitar sales by putting more money in the hands of musicians by creating an environment where DAWs are cheaper. Cakewalk becoming freeware would do just that. Get Sonar and buy a Les Paul.
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SoundIT
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/08 06:20:11
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I would buy it anyway.. Now I have to wander and look for "alternate sources".
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/08 08:24:23
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☄ Helpfulby SoundIT 2017/12/10 10:45:19
I know that this is probably verboten, and goes against the ethics and morals of most users here, but in reality, cracked versions of SONAR Platinum nave existed since there was a SONAR Platinum. Even if SONAR never makes it to the public domain, it will always remain available underground as long as it's relevant. I've NEVER been a proponent of alternative sourcing of active products, but my 'after-demise of Alchemy for PCs experience' suggests that these sources are very useful! Had Alchemy and its expansions (as it existed before the Apple buyout) continued to be available to PC users, by now I would have accumulated all of the previously available expansions I now have by paying for them. When not given the opportunity to buy a product, it seems only reasonable that if it is available through a dark channel, snarfing it transcends ethical or moral considerations.
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HeatherHaze
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Re: Continue to Sell
2017/12/08 09:55:28
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I would happily pay to upgrade my X2 to the latest Platinum. It absolutely sucks I was never afforded that opportunity. I can't even take advantage of the crossgrade offers because they want proof of Platinum ownership. Had I seen this coming I'd have upgraded long ago, but...
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