"Control strips visible in"... am I misunderstanding this?

Already posted this in the v700 forum, but I suppose it's really a question about Sonar itself...

In PREFERENCES > MIDI > CONTROL SURFACES I have the V700c selected, and "Control strips visible in" set to "Console View".

I thought this would mean that only strips visible in the Console View would be shown on the physical console. I have audio tracks shown, but MIDI tracks hidden, but I'm still getting the MIDI tracks on the console.

Am I missing or not understanding something?

That's the "Where Am I" thing, isn't it? That's all working fine.

There are two sets of options in the Control Surface preferences that refer to track view and console view. One of them is the WAI; I've got that set to show in both.

The other one is "Control strips visible in" which allows track view / console view / all.

Wording in the manual suggests it's to do with what shows upon the control surface:

Control Strips Visible in
SONAR allows control surfaces to display all channel strips in a project, or only the channel strips that are visible in the Track view or Console view. The options are as follows:
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Track View. The controller/surface matches the channel strips that are visible in the Track view.

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Console View. The controller/surface matches the channel strips that are visible in the Console view.

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All Strips. The controller/surface shows all channel strips in the project.

Cheers.

What I'm after is a way to not have the MIDI channels show up on the surface, basically. This sounds from the manual like it's what I'm looking for, but it's not currently doing anything as far as I can work out.

Well - after some thinking I got an idea whet is meant here. It is not something to be visible in Sonar itself, but in the Control surface.
And yes - after some testing it seems that I am right...

If you choose "Track View", your control surface can only control the strips that are visible in the the track view. In other words - if some strips are hidden, they cannot be controlled by your controller - even when those strips are visible in the console view.

And the setting "Console view" does the same, but this time for the console view.

At last - the "all strips" setting does just that. No matter if you hide the strip or not, all strips are controlled (and visible if the controller has display/lights) by the controller.

This is all very useful if you only want to control only a selected range of channels on your controller. Say - you have channel 1, 2 , 4, 6 visible and  3 and 5 hidden, your surface controller can only control 1,2,4,6 and they are mapped to channel 1,2,3,4 on your controller. As an example: Very easy if you have MIDI/audio combinations (for soft synths). Now you can hide all MIDI channels and the control surface only is able to control the audio channels...

Strange indeed...

I have setted up my Behringer BCF2000 as "mackie control surface" with in- and output to the BCF2000.

I started with a clean "normal" project and added 3 MIDI and 3 audio tracks (giving a total of 8 tracks - 4 MIDI and 4 Audio). When created all 8 motorised faders on the BCF move to the "0db" mark. The moment I hide all audio tracks, 4 of the 8 faders return to their initial state. The remaining faders control the visible MIDI tracks. When hiding the MIDI tracks (and un-hide the Audio tracks), i can only control the Audio tracks..

As you can see - it works just like is should do on my system. Are you sure the V700 is setted up right?

Oh, hang on, this is the X1 forum.

So not a minor bug. In fact I feel sickened, betrayed, let down, cheated, ripped off, and, to be honest, even more hurt than I am angry about this insurmountable show-stopper. Which I reckon they put in deliberately just to ruin my day.

 

The one in the Hague?

I went there once! But only for about ten minutes. We had to pick someone up on the way to Amsterdam.

http://www.cakewalk.com/s...act/problemreport.aspx

Yeah, I thought of that, but I like to keep the MIDI tracks and related audio outs adjacent in Sonar itself, I'm used to reading the screen that way.

Hiding MIDI tracks in track manager has got me what I wanted, so no worries. Nothing to see here :)

JClosed


Will test this out when I am back behind my DAW. I am enjoying some coffee sitting on a terrace in the sun (in front of the pub "De Zwarte Ruiter") now (yes - all pubs and coffee houses have WiFi in the town center).

I will be back....

Oh and yes.. that incredible pile of filthy garbage that X1 represents, is unmatched by even the darkest forces of the underworld.. It even scares Beelzebub away! Phew... that was a narrow escape! I was almost slaughtered for being suspected to like X1 - I am sure about it...

I'm not sure but I think the forum TOS prohibits the use of hyperbole. Continued use will result in the forum police making their presence felt and make an otherwise useful thread into a pile of the aforementioned "filthy garbage".
I apologise in advance if my post has rendered orangutan habit in Borneo useless.