Convert audio to midi? Easy!

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2017/02/19 20:13:19 (permalink)

Convert audio to midi? Easy!

Hi I just discovered a feature that may or may not have existed before but I find it really cool, so i thought I would share it everyone (of course I may the last guy to discover this lol)! 
 
Now I am a bass / guitar player and not a very good keyboard player, so when I discovered this feature well I freaked out. The other day I accidentally dragged a bass clip to a midi track and when I did, it converted it to midi note for note. So I tried it with a guitar part (that did not have any chords) and it also worked, naturally. I was doing this before using Melodyne, by adding Melodyne to the clip then using Copy Midi Events, but just dragging and dropping the clip is easier.
 
Now there is one small limitation, when you drag the audio clip to the midi track it will drop it in the same location in the timeline even if you try to drop it back or forth in the timeline. But this is not a big deal since it can be move afterwards if needed.
 
So now if I want keyboard lead line I can play it on the guitar and just drag the clip to the midi track and voila. 
 
So for those of you who did not know about this feature I hope it will be helpful to you like it is for me.
 
Peter Groslouis
 
 
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    gustabo
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/19 20:31:39 (permalink)
    That feature is actually using the ARA integration of Melodyne.


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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/19 20:43:11 (permalink)
    It doesn't work well for me.  Even simple audio always comes across as the same not.  The rhythm is correct, but it is always a monotone note for me.
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/19 21:16:10 (permalink)
    it sounds like you have the default recognition algorithm of Melodyne set to rhythm (as opposed to melody or polyphonic or automatic)

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/19 21:27:46 (permalink)
    Could be - I never looked into it too much.  I'll take a look at that - thanks!
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/19 21:58:26 (permalink)
    I think this feature has been in since X2 or X3, whenever ARA integration was added.
     
    It is a great feature.  If you set Melodyne to polyphonic mode and have a clear signal (i.e. no distortion) it does a very good job of coverting the audio.
     
    I like to sing a melody in to a mic and then convert it to midi to create keyboard parts and work on harmonies.

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 11:17:00 (permalink)
    Dwardzala,
     
    When I try this method,
     
    "I like to sing a melody in to a mic and then convert it to midi to create keyboard parts and work on harmonies",I need to edit in Melodyne as the results are never acceptable...I'm not the best singer by any stretch of the imagination, but I can carry a simple tune, and it seems to me that should work...
     
    Any thoughts?
     
    Edit:   maybe its because I i have Melodyne prefs set to melodic instead of polyphonic.... ?  Seems to me that singing a simple vocal melody should work with the melodic setting, but I will try the other.
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 14:01:00 (permalink)
    All I am doing is recording an audio track.  Then I drag that track into a midi track.  I usually have to do some editing of harmonic frequencies, but generally this is pretty quick.
     
    I don't use melodyne for this part of the process (but I think the setting in melodyne is important.)

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 14:14:01 (permalink)
    I use this a lot for creating leads from my guitar. Like mentioned above, some cleanup afterwards, but it's ~90% what I want.

     
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 14:27:13 (permalink)
    Hey that's cool.  Thanks Peter.  
    It'll make drum replacement/sample layering faster than going into Melodyne stand alone and transferring back to the session.  
    Can't wait to try it out on kick drum and snare tracks.
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 14:28:21 (permalink)
    I just discovered this "trick" myself a few weeks ago and have since converted a bunch of bass tracks to midi. 
    The Bass tracks were mostly recorded a few years ago and I just didn't like to tone and the string noise etc. 
     
    The resulting track will need editing for sure. For me there's always the duration overlapping for some reason. So a quick fix is Highlight the track and drag the whole works duration back until they don't overlap. Downside to this is very short notes will disappear, So now I look for those short notes first and make them longer.  
     
    For SI bass you also have to transpose up 12. 
    But when done it's impossible to hear any difference in what I had played so it's the best of both worlds for me. 
     
    I tried a real snare track and it made a mess. Now I know why because of this so called Melodyn settings. 
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2017/02/20 19:16:58

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 15:19:33 (permalink)
    Another thing I typically do is "Quantize".
    Sometimes the conversion works great, but like any real life performance, it is off by milliseconds.
    Im actually a big fan of this humanized playing but some times you want that part tight as a knot.
    Just quantize a portion of the part. results have been fantastic for me.

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 17:31:04 (permalink)
    dwardzala
    All I am doing is recording an audio track.  Then I drag that track into a midi track.  I usually have to do some editing of harmonic frequencies, but generally this is pretty quick.
     
    I don't use melodyne for this part of the process (but I think the setting in melodyne is important.)


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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 19:21:51 (permalink)
    Here's a question, How do you actually open Melodyn on it's own?? The only way I know is to create the regional effect. 
    I've been using drum replacer for snare parts but I would rather use melodyn now but it's hidden from me. 

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2017/02/20 20:43:00 (permalink)
    It should be under the Celemony folder in your program/apps list.

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2018/04/03 22:27:40 (permalink)
    dwardzala
    All I am doing is recording an audio track.  Then I drag that track into a midi track.  I usually have to do some editing of harmonic frequencies, but generally this is pretty quick.
     
    I don't use melodyne for this part of the process (but I think the setting in melodyne is important.)




    I have been unable to replicate this behavior. I've tried Special copying & pasting, dragging audio clips with & without Melodyne inserted to no avail. I followed this Cakewalk video ... but I cannot find any printed documentation on this feature.
     

     
    What am I missing. (I'm using Sonar Platinum)
     
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2018/04/04 02:40:51 (permalink)
    You do not need melodyn open. I don't even have it licenced to my DAW as I never use it. So it's the ARA thing. 
    It even works in my Home Studio Version. 
    Just drag a Bass track to  a midi track, done deal. As said needs some editing but pretty slick. Of note is I didn't get a very good result with a guitar part , it seemed to jump around more, but bass works every time for me. 

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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2018/04/04 15:17:25 (permalink)
    The way I convert audio to midi is as follows:
    A) you have an audio track
    B) create a midi track using TTS-1
    C) copy and paste the audio track to the midi TTS-1 track. You will probably get a piano sound.
    D) from there you can create another midi track with the instrument of your choice and copy and paste the TTS-1 track to your new track. 
     
    This works for me, I hope this could be helpful to you and it is not a complicated process.
     
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    Re: Convert audio to midi? Easy! 2018/04/04 16:38:24 (permalink)
    OK. Worked on it some more. Perhaps Melodyne doesn't have to be loaded but it certainly appears that Celemony's's ARA technology has to be present. As it turns out, Melodyne was not installed properly on my system so when I tried to simply drag an audio track to a MIDI track as you were all doing, nothing happened. Blank track. However, after re-installing Melodyne this feature is now available. Yahoo!
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