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Converting midi to audio
Hi, I've created a 5 minute long simple song in midi for a video game using just one instrument. I don't know how to get this from this little midi file to an mp3 to send by email to someone who needs it. Can someone tell me step by step how to do this in Sonar 8? Would so much appreciate it. Thanks ahead, Trisha
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 13:16:48
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Software synth or hardware synth.
If a soft synth freeze the track.
1. If you have access to the MP3 encoder inside SONAR then export as an MP3. 2. If not export to audio wave file and then use a product to convert to MP3.
If it is a hardware synth, then you need to record the audio into SONAR and use either method 1 or or 2 above.
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 13:32:26
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Thank you Wookiee for your quick response. You may as well know you're dealing with an idiot about this stuff. So. when you say hard synth, that means I'm using a keyboard that is hardware not software? Which is yes, it's a keyboard that sits on my desk. So, in that case, that is my trouble, I don't know first if I have access to the mp3 encoder, and then, the other thing is I don't know how to convert the midi to audio. I set the midi track on solo and clicked record on the audio track but it doesn't record the notes, just straight lines. What step am I leaving out? I was shown how to do this but forgot. I can't remember what adjustment to add to those 2 steps. Might as well ask, after accomplishing this, if I ever do, can I download it to a flash drive and send it to someone, or will I need another step to change it to an mp3 or some other type of file? He needs it to work into the game app he's working on. While waiting, I'm looking for the Sonar encoder. Thanks again
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 14:17:16
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You need to connect the audio out of your hardware synth to the input's of your sound card, (left to left right to right)
Then in SONAR insert a stereo audio track(default) with the input set to the inputs of your sound card that you have used from your synth.
As you have recorded the midi, you now need to arm the audio track, i.e. set it to record. Press W to rewind to the beginning, press R to record.
Make sure that the levels in the meters do not go much higher than -10dB, if they do press the space bar to stop the transport. Turn down the output of your synth until this level is archived. Do the recording again. When it reaches the end of the midi and all the sound has died away press the space bar to stop recording. Disarm the Audio track to stop accidentally recording over the top of it.
You now have your audio recorded. You then need to export the Audio to a wave file.
File > Audio > Export. set the type to wave. Set the bit depth to 24 (this will give you the best resolution), type a name in the title box. Select a directory to export to. Hit OK. Now you need to get yourself a wave to MP3 conversion program.
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 14:40:11
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I am still not clear what kind of synth is involved. A "keyboard sitting on my desk" could be either a freestanding synthesizer (or a sample player) with keyboard control and a MIDI output (or there would be no way of recording MIDI to Sonar) or it could be a keyboard MIDI controller that the OP has somehow managed to get to control a softsynth hosted within Sonar. Simple test: if you can hear the sound you want to record coming out of the "keyboard' when it is not connected to the computer, then you need to route the audio output of the keyboard via an audio interface into Sonar in order to record that sound. If there is no sound coming out of the keyboard when you play it when it is not connected to the computer, then you need to route the output of the hosted softsynth to a Sonar audio track input. Or you could just describe your setup, including the model of each device and where the physical cords connect to what.And within Sonar, what tracks you have set up and what you have set as inputs and outputs for each. By the time you have done that you will probably have your answer.
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 16:26:51
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Yes, ok. My synthesizer is a Roland RS-70 that goes through a Tascam FW-1804 interface. I recorded one midi track on Sonar 8. Now I just need to convert it to a wave file and save it to a certain kind of file extention so that I can download it to a flash drive, load it on my computer, convert it to an mp3 and send it by email to a friend. My brother set all my stuff up and showed me how to do a lot of things on Sonar. I remember him showing me that when the song is finished, I would need to Solo the midi track and press Record on an audio track so that I would then have a wave track of the midi track that I would then mute so to hear the audio wave track. From there I would save the wave file, and it was a certain kind of file.. that I also don't remember which one... but that that would matter. I am unable to burn a CD on the computer that my Sonar 8 is on which is why he told me I would have to put it on a flash drive and do the rest on my computer. Does any of this make better sense? So sorry to be so lost. I would ask my brother but he is out of the country and this stuff is greek to me. I'm a song writer not a bloody geek... or a Greek (lol). I thank all who are taking time to help me. Trisha
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 17:35:27
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You have exactly the right idea. There isn't truly such a thing as "converting" midi to audio. You just have to playback the midi and record the audio. If you're not getting any audio in you're not hooked up correctly or you're not selecting the correct audio inputs on the audio track in Sonar.
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 18:33:13
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Thank you Sanderxpander. I'm pretty sure I'm hooked up right. When you say I'm not selecting the correct audio inputs on the audio track, is there anything else I'm supposed to select besides turning on the Solo on the midi track and then turning on the Record in the audio track? Then pressing Play. I did it before, I don't remember doing anything else to make it go. When I use the mic in the audio track, it records, but not the midi track. Wish I could remember. Thanks again, Trisha
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 20:22:47
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sequen Thank you Sanderxpander. I'm pretty sure I'm hooked up right. When you say I'm not selecting the correct audio inputs on the audio track, is there anything else I'm supposed to select besides turning on the Solo on the midi track and then turning on the Record in the audio track? Then pressing Play. I did it before, I don't remember doing anything else to make it go. When I use the mic in the audio track, it records, but not the midi track. Wish I could remember. Thanks again, Trisha
Hey Trisha. May just be a typo in your description, but after setting up as you describe you need to press record, not play.
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 20:39:35
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Thanks Bruce, it was just me listing the steps I took. I made sure each time I was pressing record. It does record but doesn't pick up the midi.  Like I said, I recorded my mic in the same track and it worked fine. Then I tried the midi track on Solo and the audio track on record, clicked Record, it lit up and the metronome started, then just straight lines, no notes. But thanks anyway. Trisha
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/02/29 22:36:05
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Hi Trish. When you say you tried your microphone on the same track, does that mean you unplugged your RS-70 audio leads from your interface and plugged your microphone into the same channel to try it? It sounds as though the inputs on the audio channel you are record enabling may not be set correctly. There are a couple of places you can check this. Here's one: 1. Select the audio track you are trying to record the output of your RS-70 on. 2. If the Track Inspector is not open on the left of your screen, press "i" on your keyboard. 3. At the bottom left of the inspector, there are two small dropdown menus, one labelled "I" for input, The other "O" for output that indicate routing for the audio track. Make sure the input listed under "I" matches the physical input that the audio leads from your RS-70 synth are running to on your FW-1804 interface.
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/03/01 08:31:56
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That was it Bruce. And now I remember how it was done. Yes! Thank you! Now is there anyone who can tell me how to get this from the computer this wave file is on to my computer in a file I can send in an email so they can use it? Thanks to Bruce and all who have taken the time to help me. Greatly appreciated! Trisha
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/03/01 09:49:40
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Glad you got it sorted Trisha:) If you want to send the actual wave file I suggest Dropbox. It is free and fairly easy to set up (if you don't have it already of course). You can upload your wave file to it and send the recipient a link to download it. Since wave files are quite large, if you are going to email it you will probably want to convert it to an MP3 first (many servers have attachment size limits). If you do not have a wave editor like Sound Forge or Wavelab, there are plenty of free utilities that will do the job. Just google 'free wave to MP3 converter' . Others here might have some good suggestions for particular programs. I have Soundforge and haven't used any others in a while.
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/03/01 12:15:42
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You can use Audacity You also require to download LAME You open the .wav file in audacity and export to .mp3. Hope this will help. Regards Snehankur edit: somehow not being able to put the link to the download webpages
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/03/01 12:22:38
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Re: Converting midi to audio
2016/03/01 16:20:45
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It's true that a wav file can be large, but just to cover all the bases, you can just drag the wave file from Sonar onto your desktop. It will probably have some funky name, but you can always rename it like any other Windows file.
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