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Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
I downloaded several Bricasti IRs from Samplicity. For each IR, there are 3 files, one Left, one Right and one M/S. Perfect Space can only handle 1 file, as far as I understand. Can anyone explain to me would the sound difference between L/R and M/S is, and if it makes sense to upgrade to Pristine Space to be able to load several IRs?
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 03:43:02
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i think (i think lol) thats the way they have recorded the IR's, i dont know why you would want to load 3 different impulses, maybe it would give good effect with reverbs panned, but one suffice for me, just my opinion
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 03:50:23
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in perfect space you can load 2 ir's but it either a or b, no way to layer them or x-fade between them
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 03:52:34
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 04:09:28
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 04:12:31
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dont know about yous guys but with reverbs, when i'm bussing different **** like drums and so on, i tend to put the reverb on that buss, rather than a separate buss which you would usually send to, tend to have the reverb just a touch damp, how about yourselfs ??
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 04:31:42
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 04:32:31
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2011/04/13 04:34:32
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 08:09:36
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 08:11:33
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Chregg
dont know about yous guys but with reverbs, when i'm bussing different **** like drums and so on, i tend to put the reverb on that buss, rather than a separate buss which you would usually send to, tend to have the reverb just a touch damp, how about yourselfs ??
ive done this both ways.but i think the latter is same for me.
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 08:28:30
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As stated, it's free and I also use it, but on every project with jbridge, it works great. I use it on vocals mostly.
I have downloaded many free impulses, working great here.
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 09:39:20
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Hi all,check this......it could be a great news.It's true stereo!!
Best
http://gpuimpulsereverb.de/
AFAI understand it only 32bit...
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 14:13:34
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The L/R impulses are to be used with a true-stereo reverb plugin, i.e., stereo-in/stereo-out.
Perfect Space is not a true stereo reverb , and none of the other reverbs included with Sonar are true stereo either. The incoming signal is summed to mono and the plugin creates a pseudo-stereo output. The "M/S" impulses (mono to stereo) are designed for use with this type of reverb.
If you are just putting reverb on a vocal or a mono source, true stereo isn't a big deal. However, if you are trying to retain the original panning information of the dry source, which is often the case with orchestral simulations or if you want to put an entire drum mix into a virtual room, then true-stereo is a big step up. Otherwise, the sound stage gets smaller because all the things that you panned at opposite corners only reverberate from the middle.
I hope that all makes sense.
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 14:19:41
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makes sense to me, and just put Liquidsonics Reverberate near the top of my to-get list...
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 14:49:39
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If you are open to a non-convolution reverb, 2CAudio Breeze sounds utterly fantastic and it's on sale right now for $99. I've been through a lot of reverb plugins and this one is my favorite by far.
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 14:55:18
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Thanks for the great advice guys!!
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 15:17:02
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Remember it's the quality of the impulses that really matters. Roo's Bricasti's are very nice & use them myself in Pristine Space (which does True Stereo) Other ir's that are available free may have issues.
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 16:00:52
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You can use multiple instances of Perfect Space, panned appropriately, to get true stereo. It works just fine.
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Re:Convolusion Reverbs, Perfect Space vs Pristine Space
2011/04/13 17:25:32
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Upgrade.... Perfect Space is old and outdate... That's ridiculous, Freddie. Has the math somehow changed? Come on. PerfectSpace does have one significant limitation, which is that it's not a true stereo effect. Other than that, it does what it does exactly how it was intended to do it.
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