Could someone summarise the last 2 months for me?

some people are still having issues.  there are still some remaining bugs, but X1 has always run very solidly on my systems- one vista machine, one W7.

no one seems to be sure exactly what percentages are happy vs. not happy.

search the forum for the word POLL because there were some interesting polls taken.  that may be the best way to get a summary.

the bottom line is, if u are a bad person and have sin in your heart, X1 will not work for you.

i kid.

No easy way to summarize so many different experiences especially if you think that when you last looked "most people seemed to think X1 was a shambles." I highly doubt that 'most people' thought that, but reading a forum and distilling the truth from the fiction and the hyperbole from the facts is not an easy thing to master.

There are users who never had a problem with any version of X1 except for (at least in their minds) minor bugs.

Others simply could not use X1 or X1a who had a lot of their issues fixed with X1b. Some never got any version of X1 running satisfactorily.

And pretty much everything in between.

Some users hate the new interface, others really like it. Most hate it? Depends on what posts you read and how you read them. Most like it? Same thing. IMO there simply is no consensus, as you would expect from any DAW.

I'm one of the users that have really liked X1 but am I in the majority or minority? Can't say.

One thing that most might agree on is that this place was pretty uncomfortable for a while. Lots of rancor and a few pretty wild battles which seem to have settled down a bit. But hey this thread has real potential to go postal so you might want to observe a bit and decide for yourself.

I think X1 has the potential of being a great DAW.  I'm a bit disappointed that two of the new touted add-on functions are not fully bug free...ProChannel and FX Chain.  There may be others but those two stick out in my mind.  With those two, the listed of over 200 fixes and some of the feedback on this forum I'm still a little less than confident in X1.  BUT, I am cheering for it!!!  I think an X1(c) patch may just put it over the top for me.  For now, I will continue to do my serious work in 8.5.3, but, I also will continue to do small test side projects in X1.

It does seem like the bakers have gone silent for a while now.  I haven't seen any posts from Cake about a forthcoming patch...I'm hopeful.

vintagevibe


I'm still on 8.5.  I have 2 questions for X1 users...

1) Don't you still have to re-learn a lot of what you already now from 8.5?

Yes. IMO it really is, in many ways, a new DAW. Better for some, worse for others but the learning curve is pretty steep to really get it under control..

2) It still seems that many many things take more keystrokes that in 8.5.. is that still true?

Debatable. Many many things? Some things more, some things less, and again no real consensus that I can find.

HumbleNoise

vintagevibe


I'm still on 8.5.  I have 2 questions for X1 users...

1) Don't you still have to re-learn a lot of what you already now from 8.5?

Yes. IMO it really is, in many ways, a new DAW. Better for some, worse for others but the learning curve is pretty steep to really get it under control..

2) It still seems that many many things take more keystrokes that in 8.5.. is that still true?

Debatable. Many many things? Some things more, some things less, and again no real consensus that I can find.

Thanks Larry.  I really have no desire to stop or slow production for X1.  I see no advantage.  Pro Channel is the only thing you get other than Skylight and I have plenty or plug-ins that are as good and better.  I really think Cakewalk as gone off in the wrong direction.

Excitement, disappointment, angst, anticipation, elation, more angst, compromise.....In that order!

drumr


Excitement, disappointment, angst, anticipation, elation, more angst, compromise.....In that order!

And also....
 
Infighting, cheap shots, misunderstanding, grief, alienation, suspicion, abandonment, struggle for hope, and for some.....happiness.

quibb


@vintigevibe - I understand your hesitation, but there have been many upgrades I have had similar thoughts about. I've never purchased an upgrade from Cakewalk I have regretted, which remains true today.
 
Best,
V

I've upgraded every version since Cakewalk for Windows 3.1.  I think they've finally lost me.

You can still take my X1 user poll here:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2258019&high=X1+poll
 
Just take the poll even if you haven't installed X1 yet, so you can see the answers. Very interesting results.
 
 

vintagevibe


I'm still on 8.5.  I have 2 questions for X1 users...

1) Don't you still have to re-learn a lot of what you already now from 8.5?

2) It still seems that many many things take more keystrokes that in 8.5.. is that still true?

1) You have to relearn how and where to do things, but under the hood, it's still 8.5.3, same engine. Once you find your way around the neighborhood, you'll feel right at home and everytime you go past your old 8.5.3 block the only thing that sticks out in your mind is how old and cluttered your street looks. You'll never go back and you know it. You've moved out and you're on to something fresh and new, yes it looks good and runs even better. Smooth and streamlined, sleek and fast, new and exiting!
 
X1 baby all the way!
 
2) This one is harder for me to tell you because I'm more of a mouse kinda guy, BUT, I've noticed I now use the keyboard ALOT more than I use to. And that's because of the new layout for shortcuts. It makes alot more sense now, it's easier to remember. So alot of the veteren users that had the old shortcuts burned into their memories like a bad tattoo from an unlicenced oriental massage therapist are/were pretty upset about it. As for me, I didn't even notice, but I really like using the keyboard more now. So two extremes about the same feature. That's the way alot of the discussions have gone on around here, some not so polite.
 
My advice to you is to go take my X1 user poll to see the interesting results. The poll is still active for anyone who hasn't taken it. http://www.brentradio.com/X1Poll.html
 
My advice is to upgrade to X1 right away. Unless you have some unlucky problems, I'm willing to bet you will love it. I would only run it on a fairly new computer. And I would say go 64 bit all the way. Sounds better, runs better, is better. And get as much ram as you can. And last get as much ram as you can. Yeah, I know I said that twice, but I wanted to make sure you got it. Also, make sure you can run in HD resolution 1920 x 1080. X1 is basically made to run that way. It looks fantastic on my two 23" inch screens. Be sure to check out the grove3.com X1 video tutorials. They are fantastic and will get you up and running in no time. If Cakewalk had added these to the purchase of X1, X1 users would have been alot happier from the start.
 
X1 is and will continue to be a great DAW. It's far from perfect, but I know it will continue to get better. I'm all in at this point and I don't reget it at all.

subtlearts


I have rearranged quite a few key commands though - by and large they make more sense in X1 but there are some real obvious omissions for me that I've found 'better' (for me) solutions for. I'm also hard at work configuring my Kore unit as a controller for it, which is coming along nicely - I'll post details and setup files when I get it all nicely tweaked. 

Please please please post both the 'better' shortcuts you have made, and I would love to have the details on setting up my Kore 2 controller with X1! I love the controller and would love to have it control X1 as well.

A1MixMan

subtlearts

I have rearranged quite a few key commands though - by and large they make more sense in X1 but there are some real obvious omissions for me that I've found 'better' (for me) solutions for. I'm also hard at work configuring my Kore unit as a controller for it, which is coming along nicely - I'll post details and setup files when I get it all nicely tweaked.  

Please please please post both the 'better' shortcuts you have made, and I would love to have the details on setting up my Kore 2 controller with X1! I love the controller and would love to have it control X1 as well.

Hey, cool, glad to know there's at least one person interested out there... I'm still putting finishing touches on the Kore setup, it's taken a lot more thinking-through than I had expected or planned in order to make it function how I want, but it's very close now and even seems stable. With a little luck later today I should be able to post the results of my research. The ACT setup interface is hardly a miracle of user-friendliness, but it's very powerful once you figure out what's going on. It's also possible that simply reading the manual would speed things up, but I'm really more of a learn-by-doing kind of guy... 


I'll also export my tweaked keyboard mappings in case anyone's interested, but that's bound to be a personal thing... 

A1MixMan


You can still take my X1 user poll here:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2258019&high=X1+poll
 
Just take the poll even if you haven't installed X1 yet, so you can see the answers. Very interesting results.
 
 

I'm never gonna cope with X1 - I can't even see the poll!  1st page just sits there with no links for me on Google Chrome...

Yeah the poll doesn't work here either.

This thread is VERY interesting to me and perhaps represents the biggest change in the forum and maybe in the perception and acceptance of X1 over the last two months. Two months ago there's NO WAY this thread wouldn't have turned into a flame fest.

Instead now we're reading objective and accurate posts of users experiences and thoughtful opinions. Refreshing and a pretty interesting change.