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Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks)

Where Does A Cowboy Go?
 
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I wrote this some time back and never got around to finishing it. So I threw a vocal on it and here it is.
 
Back in the early days when I gigged for a living, we tended to play lots of honky-tonk hole in the wall places that seemed to attract cowboys and cowgirls. Some were the sidewalk urban cowboys but more then enough knew how to rodeo with the best. I got to know some of them fairly well over the years. The best people you could want to know..... so in a way, this is for them and their indomitable spirits.
 
I hope you enjoy it too..... it's traditional, old style country.
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/06 14:23:39 (permalink)
    I've met a few cowboys too... one of them even took a shot at me... but that's another story...
    I don't know where they go, but I could tell you where I told him he could go...
     
    I love the song... could be a hit... I would suggest bumping up the vox, and replacing the Ride & Snare with HH & Sidestick during the verses... 
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/06 14:43:31 (permalink)
    Frank.... thanks for popping in for a listen. The vocals boost was an easy fix..... I was thinking they were too low myself, but it was one of those cases of  I've been listing to this for a few hours..... and second guessing myself on levels..... anyway, I cranked it 2db or so.....
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/06 17:29:43 (permalink)
    Love the old school take of this song.  And yea, the lyrics have hit written on them.  Just the right tone to appeal to the cowboy in us all.  And love the fiddle - very sweet.  My suggestions would be switching the beat on the drums a little bit - it feels to a little mechanical although it gets more interesting later in the song.  The only other thing is sometimes the vox is a little too loud - just on a few words and phrases and in the lower registers.  Again, that is a tiny thing, nothing major here, move along.
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/06 22:18:46 (permalink)
    This is for sure a cowboy song and a good one at that. I have only written one in my life and will have to scroll through some of my old discs and see if I can find it and post it. It's called Fast Train To Texas. It was fun doing it, as you must of had fun doing this one. Very nicely done.
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/07 00:39:12 (permalink)
    Sorry, tried to listen but encountered an error? And it didn't seem worth it to try again for some reason? When errors happen, they're usually permanent errors (based on my experience?) so if you could email me your songs? I may be able to listen in the future (assuming there are no errors associated with the mp3s?) :-)
     
    BUT! If there are errors? I cannot (in good conscience) guarantee that I will try again. I know this may seem lame? But I wrote a song once a long time ago? "It is what it is..." (classic song BTW) I know I should try again (in my heart of hearts?) But somehow, it's just difficult to get around to it? What with the sock drawer? Vacuuming? Feeding the fish? I'm sure you understand.
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/07 08:58:49 (permalink)
    AT, John, ....glad you liked it...something about a good old cowboy song.....
     
    Yes it was a fun write.
     
     
    Rob... try again.... never give up, never.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/07 08:59:54 (permalink)
    Nice one Herb. Great story and images.
    Love the simplicity of the beat and the changes.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/07 09:10:48 (permalink)
    Great song.
     
    How about less reverb on the drums for a more intimate small room feel. Maybe back off the cymbals a bit too. I have the impression I should be hearing more skin and less effect.
     
    The violin might could use some "air" or squeaks or something.
     
     
     
    Vocal sounds really great.
     
    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/07 17:33:42 (permalink)
    Wonderful tune Herb!! Vocals and lyrics are sweet and honest.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/08 09:41:16 (permalink)
    Tim, Mike & Tony.........
     
    The weekends are busy round here...lots of "projects" to do out in the yard and around the house.... so I can't get to the DAW to work on things and adjust them. Suffice it to say I hear the comments and plan to re-do some of the issues mentioned. As I listen I also hear lyric changes that should be made..... so come Monday.........
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/08 12:06:07 (permalink)
    Herb,
     
    I never really noticed it before but you and Warren have similar voices.
     
    This was nice song. Nothing wrong with the mix (to my ears).
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/08 15:31:19 (permalink)
    New mix up.....ver 2
     
    new taylor tracks ....piano down a bit...... eq changes on a few tracks.... slight editing on envelopes..
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/08 19:44:17 (permalink)
    Mix sounds smoother Herb. I do think the chorus needs developed more. The front line is great but sort of dies after that. (cowboy go, no rodeo) The BIAB steel parts don't seem to lift the chorus the way they should I think (doesn't really lift it).
    I don't know if you want to work on it further, but, I think it's got great potential if you apply your newer writing/producing skills to the 'song'.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/08 22:16:34 (permalink)
    Like it man.  Mix really open and clear.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/08 22:53:45 (permalink)
    You misspelled twerks Miley Hacker.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... 2013/09/09 11:20:41 (permalink)
    Well done, Herb.  This is clean and clear, and it reminds me of the music coming from my dad's radio when I was a kid.  It sounds just about right to my ears.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/09 12:44:46 (permalink)
    This sounds very authentic.  I love the fiddle and the great pedal steel sound.
    We could never sound like that this side of the pond.
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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/09 13:16:49 (permalink)
     Like Lynn, this is the kind of thing my dad listened to. Work a full day, crack a beer and put something like this on...so this brings back memories of sorts because it sounds so much like that other stuff. 
     
     After listening to it I thought the cymbal at 3:17 sounded just a little out of place, but then I listened again and it seemed to fit...meh probably neither here nor there. Great song and mix!To someone that doesn't do this, the fact that all the cymbal hits sounded pretty much identical wouldn't be noticed. To me it sounded a little too "canned" for that reason. If you are using midi, maybe even changing velocities a little would help there. 

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/09 15:00:55 (permalink)
    Tim:  smoother,,, sounds good... as far as developing it.... probably not. It was an older song that was setting around..... it's time to jump into writing something new..... so stay tuned...
     
    Don: open and clear, that's what I aim for. thanks, glad you like it.
     
    Robby: did you manage to get in the door to listen.... Miley who?  Oh, you mean Beetlejuice's dance partner...that Miley.....
     
    Lynn, glad you liked it too. Yeah I grew up with the old troubadours on the radio and the record player too.
     
    Champ: side of the pond doesn't matter. I hear that American country music is large over there.... so grab some and have fun.
     
    Starise: could be a bit to mechanical (the drums) but I didn't really re-do the drums on this from the original recording at some point in the past..... the vox and the guitars were the only tracks redone for this version. As I said earlier, I was sandbagging on this tune and really only worked on it to get back in the recording swing of things. I had pretty much taken the summer off from music ....for the most part. I hardly turned on the DAW at all and this was my warm up for whatever comes next.  I'm thinking another "warm up" tune might be in order first.
     
     

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/09 15:26:20 (permalink)
    Very nice Herb....came out clean & clear through my cans. I enjoyed the fiddle a lot (set the mood really well).....did you play that as well?
     

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/10 06:24:13 (permalink)
    I like this Herb. Mix sounds nice. Reminds me of some of those old Chris Ledoux (Spelling?) songs from way back when. really brings back some memories. Good job!

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/10 15:04:16 (permalink)
    Mesh: Hey thanks...glad you like it. No, I'm not a fiddle player. That is a BiaB sample.
     
    Darin: Nothing like an old Cowboy song huh?  I'm glad I could bring some good memories.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/11 21:05:55 (permalink)
    I really enjoyed hearing this Herb, I like traditional music a lot. Great stuff!!
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/12 04:21:41 (permalink)
    Hi Herb , 
    I really liked your song  very old school country .
    to my taste , the drum sounds are a little to modern and hot....
    everything else I really enjoyed  fantastic song 
     
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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/12 05:06:33 (permalink)
    Love the steel and fiddle.  Some minor pitch issues on the vocals.  I agree with notnat about dropping in a sidestick/hat on the verses for some variety in the drum line.  Also, an extra fill or two here and there might make the drums sound a bit less vanilla.
     
    Overall very nice production and a great song!  I liked it quite a bit.  Thanks for sharing. :)

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/12 17:57:27 (permalink)
    I'm really not a Country fan, so I'm not really an authority on the subject, but:
     
    I think the drums are a bit loud and upfront.
     
    I like the way the steel lines fit between the vocal lines and fill things out. Nice touch.
     
    The mix seems really clear. I can hear everything and some good arranging helps it out a lot.
     
     
    The pitch issues someone else mentioned don't bother me in the least. Makes it so much more authentic and real. In fact, I don't think I would have noticed if someone else hadn't pointed it out.

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/12 21:23:26 (permalink)
    Nice song. I'm not much of a fan of this style but I could deal with it live. To me, this music is best live. Well done!

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/13 07:25:54 (permalink)
    Bobby: Thank you. I'm a huge fan of traditional country...
     
    Kenny: The drums, several others have mentioned them too.... I'm gonna do one more mix this weekend and tame them a few db. Thanks for listening and commenting.
     
    Walt: thanks for listening. heck I might have to redo the drums totally. stay tuned.
     
    Byron: you too huh? Drums.....OK... thanks for listening... I'm sensing a consensus here.
     
    Guitarpima: Thanks also, for listening. I too like some types of music better live because I can see the people playing it and realize how good the players actually are. Live is better.
     
     

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    Re: Cowboy song.... ( Version-2 w/ tweeks) 2013/09/13 19:15:11 (permalink)
    Woo Hoo!  I loved this one.  If I was going to drink again, I'd want to be in a bar where they're playing this.  Then I'd find a blues bar!  LOL  This is one my favorites from you.  Really nicely mixed produced and performed!

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