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2010/04/30 06:59:15 (permalink)

Cracked plugins

Hi all, today there was an argument going on with some guys I know that also do recording and mixing etc,.. they were saying that there is a difference in the quality of a plugin if its cracked. I am talking about  plugins like Eq's for example Waves mercury, and so on.I mean is it possible that the cracked version sounds different in quality wise than the original?? they said  the original sounds way better than any cracked version. just wanna know if this is possible and how? if it works it works right? I dunno  ,  I would like to know opinions on this thank you. 

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    hairyjamie
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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 07:23:29 (permalink)
    I would imagine that any cracked version of a commmercial plugin would sound exactly the same as the bought version.

    I think the problem is one of stability and reliability. The errant code that knocks about in cracked versions to allow people to use it for free does nothing to make the application more stable.

    I suppose this would be to a greater or lesser extent depending on the copy protection method employed.
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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 07:44:33 (permalink)
    A lot of forums don't encourage debate on cracked plug-ins due it being quite an emotive subject, not to mention a fairly sad pastime carried about by scum. That aside though, to answer your question:

    A lot of 'cracked' stuff is not cracked at all and is just copies and a serial number that works, so there is no difference - unless the site decide to offload a virus into your PC, which is rarer nowadays, I believe, with music software.

    Ones that do need to be cracked can be different because it can take many man hours to crack them and they tend to get them working and usable but not totally correct and also they are not always updated, so you get the original buggy version, which is not totally correct and no updated version.

    How stable all this is for you and PC I know not?

    The good news is you've no need to worry about all this. Just buy the software from a retailer or the maker and make sweet music. Some people sell their whole character for a few hundred quid. I suppose everyone has their price.
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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 07:46:32 (permalink)
    The best way to figure this out is to buy the plug ins and compare for yourself... what usually happens is that everyone who buys them agrees... the ones you buy sound better.

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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 09:18:52 (permalink)
    I don't know if the legit copies sound better, but you sure will sleep better.

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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 09:28:34 (permalink)
    I don't know how all of you guys use these cracked copies of software.  When my Sonar disk cracked, I had a hell of a time trying to illegaly load it on my 5 other computers.

     
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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 09:34:57 (permalink)
    I always preferred the MAD plugins.  Cracked was just not as good IMHO.

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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 10:20:42 (permalink)
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    I always preferred the MAD plugins.  Cracked was just not as good IMHO.

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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 12:38:26 (permalink)
    They'll sound exactly the same. "Cracking" software pertains to the serial no. / copy protection / authorization requirements to get the software to run.
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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 13:06:08 (permalink)
    My opinion.... I would not use cracked software for character reasons.  If I think the software is worth using, I should be willing to buy it from that company, not steal it. They spent huge amounts of time and money to write the software, they are entitled to their profits.

    It's the same story with our music.... If you write music and wish to make it available for free (shareware) then you have the right to do so..... but if you wish to sell your music and make a profit from your intellectual property, you also have that right, and no one has the right to steal it or download it for free, and post it where others can also steal it....


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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 14:28:12 (permalink)
    cracked music software won't sound any different than it's legal version. Now that's version though. You won't get the updates, and it may be unstable, and it may be missing sound components. So in that sense, it would be lesser "quality" and if it's crashing, then well, you have no sound.

    There's plenty of "open source", or legally free plugins out there, that will do the job just fine. In addition, people will get cracked Waves bundles, and not know how to use them anyway.


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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/04/30 14:46:38 (permalink)
    Yes, cracked software sounds worse - just listen.  And the stereo width is 10-20% narrower.

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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/05/01 15:31:02 (permalink)
    Crackin' software Grommit - It's just not on !


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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/05/01 16:15:03 (permalink)
    I have no idea.
    I don’t use cracked anything!
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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/05/03 03:22:44 (permalink)
    Stolen software would sound fine.
    The same sounds can be achieved by
    stealing someones money and buying legal copies.    
    post edited by SoundBank - 2010/05/03 03:35:17
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    Re:Cracked plugins 2010/05/03 06:33:17 (permalink)
    David Bowie

    Well, the bitter comes out better on a stolen guitar.

    Bit of a weird question really, taking into consideration the hours that go in to developing plugs that sound good, if cracking them made them sound better I'd would think the developers would have noticed that phenomenon and incorporated the crack into the development cycle.

    In theory I suppose if there was a scenario where the plug-in is making real time calls to some verification code then that could steal some cpu cycles and bypassing that code could improve performance slightly but I doubt it would impact on 'quality' even if that kind of 'protection/crack' was implemented.

    There can be nothing in it more than the romantic notion outlined in the quote above, to my mind.

    Oh, and did I mention that piracy is bad, m-kay?



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