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2011/03/22 18:28:55 (permalink)

Crackle/Pop when moving windows

I'm currently using SHS 7 with a Line 6 KB37 and a PC with more than enough processing power and RAM to handle my small track counts.

The issue I'm having is, every time I move a window within SHS 7 during playback, I get an audible crackling/popping noise. It only happens as I'm dragging the window.

I've had no other issues with the KB37 interface, so I'm down to thinking it may be a software and/or driver problem.

Anyone else have similar issues?

Thanks!
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/03/22 18:50:23 (permalink)
    that's possibly a problem with your video.  what video card do you have or are you using your motherboard's onboard video?  what are the rest of your computer specs also?  and your operating system?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/03/22 21:46:01 (permalink)
    Try turning down your video acceleration settings in Windows Display Properties. 

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/03/23 08:25:11 (permalink)
    Intel Pentium D CPU 3.20 Ghz
    4 GB of RAM
    Windows 7 ( 32 bit OS )

    Video card is a Radeon X1900 Series

    I'll try turning down video acceleration, thanks for the suggestion.

    Thanks for the help, guys. I'm a Mac guy ( translation: I don't know **** about computers other than how to turn them on ) so I'm still playing catch up here.
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/03/24 12:07:14 (permalink)
    It looks like that fixed it.

    Thanks for the help!
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 16:41:09 (permalink)
    Hi i,m having the same problem as Micheal with moving my windows but i tried to lower
    the hardware acc'but the trobleshooting window tells me that i can't change it because
    the current driver does not allow the change. Do i need to update my video card driver,(Geforce 8600m gt)if yes were do i get it? im running a Dell inspiron 1720 4Gb ram.
    Daw is Sonar home studio 7XL, Windows vista. 32bit.     sometime the audio pops on playback even when i don't move enything. could that be another problem besides the vidoe accelorator?
                                                             Thank you.........
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 18:55:32 (permalink)
    if it's happening at times when you're not moving anything then that's not a video driver or accelerator problem.  what soundard are you using and what driver mode and latency are you running?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 20:00:39 (permalink)
    I got a line 6 tuneport ux8 , in audio options i got 44100 Sample rate mixing latency
    is fast 11.6 msec then when i go to ASIO panel
    the sample rate coverter is one notch to the right audio is 512 default buffer size
    and 24 bit default bit depth. is that what you ment by driver mode??
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 21:08:23 (permalink)
    is that what you ment by driver mode??

     
    No, but saying you opened the ASIO panel means you're using ASIO driver mode.
    Pops and other noises can sometimes be caused by other programs running, like anti-virus programs.

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 21:19:12 (permalink)
    anti-virus is of. still got pops. is there enything els i could turn off?
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 21:28:10 (permalink)
    Try setting latency as long as possible and see if that fixes it.  If yes then you can start to speed it up again until it comes back. 

    I've used laptops for recording, but I think if you have several tracks and effects running then the laptop may start to sputter again.

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 21:47:36 (permalink)
    I have got it all the way to the right still got pops.
    i am running a project to mix and there is three tracks with amplitube and 2tracks
    with gearbox i think that is the problem but there must be a better way to mix then having to freez and unfreez the tracks to mix fade, pan...ect...
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 21:57:50 (permalink)
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    Try turning down your video acceleration settings in Windows Display Properties. 


    how do you turn down your acceleration properties?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/06 22:12:59 (permalink)
    chico11


    I have got it all the way to the right still got pops.
    i am running a project to mix and there is three tracks with amplitube and 2tracks
    with gearbox i think that is the problem but there must be a better way to mix then having to freez and unfreez the tracks to mix fade, pan...ect...

    If you bounce the effected tracks to another track, that will remove the effects and their load on the processor from the processor. Then archive the original tracks in case you want to work with them again at some time in the future.

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/08 17:12:17 (permalink)
    57Gregy - That's effectively the same thing as freezing and unfreezing.... but more work.  ;-)

    chico11 - Hmmm, that used to work for me with an older machine.  Sounds like you're on the right track but I'm hoping someone else will chime in on reducing processor load so you don't have to keep freezing tracks.

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/08 19:37:14 (permalink)
    there's some conflicting statements coming from chico here.  if he's in ASIO mode then he can't move the latency slider all the way to the right because the latency slider will be greyed out.  if he's in WDM or MME driver mode then he's, obviously, not in ASIO mode as requested by other members.

    chico - look at OPTIONS>AUDIO  it tells you which driver mode you're in by whichever one is selected when you open that window.  is it ASIO, WDM, MME, WASAPI or what?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/08 20:16:12 (permalink)
    Hi when i look in OPTIONS>AUDIO widow called audio options - ASIO then on the bottom left hand side in general tab there is a button that is called ASIO Panle...., when i click on that there is another window that pops up that is called line 6 audio- MIDI Devices - 3,42  that is were i slide the slider for my buffer size.
    the audio options- ASIO has playback timing master --1:ASIO TONEPORT UX8 1-2
    record timing master--1:ASIO TONEPORT UX8 1-2 AND SO ON...........
    The part that is grayed out is my mixing latency in the 1st window.
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/09 09:10:13 (permalink)
    OK, that makes more sense.  I did not know the toneport had a slider for latency.

    do you have a webcam or wireless internet card on here?  turn those off.  what else do you have on this computer?

    what are your comptuer specs?  what processor speed, RAM?  OS, what size and speed hard drives are you using?  is your audio being recorded on your same drive as the operating system?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/09 17:16:40 (permalink)
    I have the webcam disabled, the wifi disabled, and my internal soundcard to.
    -my prossesor is Intel core 2 duo cpu t7250@2.00GHz 4gb of ram.
    -i run widows vista 32 bit  service pack 2
    -internal hard drive is 5400RPM 250gb western digital.
    -external hard drive is 7200RPM 1tb seagate 1.5Gbps
    -in the resource overview i got a meter that sais 35% used physical memory.
    my external hard drive is new so i am useing it to store my project and run them from there. but i used to run them from my internal hard drive and i was having the same problem. i also have another screen connected to my laptop.For other programs that
    are running? i don't know how to find them if ther running or not. i hope this helps.....
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/09 17:52:01 (permalink)
    your internal hard drive is only 5400rpm and that could easily cause this problem.  your external 7200rpm SATA shouldn't have that problem, tho.  you say you're "storing" your project on the external - have you actually changed the settings in sonar for your projects to be located there?  if not, then you're still using the internal to record to.


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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/09 18:24:38 (permalink)
    Yes it is running from the external hard drive, at the bottom right hand  i see 44.1KHZ
    ,24BIT Disk space (F): 880.9GB (94%). i did change it in global options.
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/09 22:24:50 (permalink)
    google and download DPC Latency Checker.  install it and run it.  are you getting spikes?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/09 23:26:41 (permalink)
    i have downloaded dpc with everything that i said earlier, disabled it's at absolute maximum 1019us. with wifi enabled it's at 31002us.
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/10 09:02:52 (permalink)
    1019usecs is still a little high, from my experience.  what did the message at the bottom of the window say?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/10 09:52:11 (permalink)
    It's said that this machine should be able to handle real-time streaming of audio
    without drop-outs.
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/10 11:37:01 (permalink)
    I'm starting to run out of ideas! 

    you don't have this UX8 plugged into a usb hub do you?  what else do you have plugged into USB?

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/10 14:08:39 (permalink)
    I got my UX8 USB direct to laptop, M-Audio keystation 88 USB to laptop, Roland
    TD-6v through a MIDI USB iterface to USB in laptop. if i disconnect the keystation88
    and the TD-6 the DPC is at about the same.1019 to 1048us.Still getting pops.....
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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/10 14:12:16 (permalink)
    check your task manager and see what other programs are running.

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/20 22:51:57 (permalink)
    I got a line 6 tuneport ux8 , in audio options i got 44100 Sample rate mixing latency
    is fast 11.6 msec then when i go to ASIO panel
    the sample rate coverter is one notch to the right audio is 512 default buffer size
    and 24 bit default bit depth. is that what you ment by driver mode??

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    Re:Crackle/Pop when moving windows 2011/05/20 23:08:00 (permalink)
    no, it's not, but I doubt that was a serious question since you're only here to spam us with the links in your signature.

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