Crashed my system and re-installing everything

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2013/06/07 14:25:25 (permalink)

Crashed my system and re-installing everything

Hi All,
 
        Any help appreciated. My system hard drive crashed and I don't have any backups, they got lost.
I am running XP sp3 and Sonar Producer 8.5.3 after re-installing XP and updates I re-installed 8.5.3 and the Delta driver for XP, then realized that I used to run in ASIO mode and installed Asio4all. When I open up a recent project I get messages about not finding the ASIO drivers and it asks me if I want to change to other options. I hit the options button and the option to use the exact ASIO driver is there that it says is missing. After selecting it and saving when I re-open the project I get the same message.
 
It's been so long ago that I set this machine up I don't remember if there is anything I'm missing. Or is there a certain order that the M-Audio driver and ASIO4all needs to be installed in?
 
Thanks for any help!

Peace,
Johnny Philko
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Motherboard:Asus Model P5B-E
CPU Name: Q6600 Quad Core
Ram: 2 gig matched DDRAM DDR dual channel
Audio: Delta 1010/44 ASIO Mode
Sonar PE 6.2.1
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    daveny5
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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/07 16:57:32 (permalink)
    Should have used the opportunity to upgrade to Windows 7 or 8...
    Should not be using ASIO4ALL at all. Use the M-Audio drivers. 

    Dave
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    JohnnyPhilko
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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/07 18:48:26 (permalink)
    M-Audio Win 7 drivers will not synch a Delta 1010 and a 44. They denied it was a problem for two years then finally admitted it, but still haven't fixed it. So I am stuck on XP until they do something about it. And apparently they aren't real worried about it.
     
    I can't remember the issue that made me install the asio4all and from what I've gathered on another thread I'm on my way to uninstall it right now.
     
    Thanks for the input!!!!! :-)

    Peace,
    Johnny Philko
    http://www.myspace.com/johnnyphilko

    Motherboard:Asus Model P5B-E
    CPU Name: Q6600 Quad Core
    Ram: 2 gig matched DDRAM DDR dual channel
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    Sonar PE 6.2.1
    Dual StarLogic 19" LCD Monitors
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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/07 20:38:15 (permalink)
    If this makes any sense, I uninstalled asio4all and had to switch to M-Audio asio driver mode for it to work. It seems that something in Windows is tying up the drivers and not allowing me to use WMD mode. I remember that there was something in Windows XP that I really had to dig for to get it to release the drivers but can't remember what it was now.
     
    Anyone remember what it was?

    Peace,
    Johnny Philko
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    Motherboard:Asus Model P5B-E
    CPU Name: Q6600 Quad Core
    Ram: 2 gig matched DDRAM DDR dual channel
    Audio: Delta 1010/44 ASIO Mode
    Sonar PE 6.2.1
    Dual StarLogic 19" LCD Monitors
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    daveny5
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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/08 08:26:13 (permalink)
    You can't use 2 soundcards with ASIO mode. That's probably why you're using ASIO4ALL which is really a WDM wrapper. 

    Dave
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    Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic.
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    Cactus Music
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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/08 11:04:50 (permalink)
    I think there are a lot of Delta users around here. Even though you use 8.5 try posting in the X1 forum where there is a LOT more users reading. Or even post in the Hardware forum. I think you can upgrade etc. 

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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/08 11:18:40 (permalink)
    Thanks guys, I was able to google my original posts with these problems from 2008 and it appears that I did have to switch to ASIO to get the multiple card synch to work.
     
    These forums have changed since I was last here and will now only let me search back over a period of 365 days max. unless I am missing something. But google let me find the original thread and it appears the WDM mode will not synch two cards but ASIO will.
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1346537&mpage=1&print=true

    Peace,
    Johnny Philko
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    CPU Name: Q6600 Quad Core
    Ram: 2 gig matched DDRAM DDR dual channel
    Audio: Delta 1010/44 ASIO Mode
    Sonar PE 6.2.1
    Dual StarLogic 19" LCD Monitors
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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/08 12:51:02 (permalink)
    No it's the other way around. But don't mix asio4all with the proper ASIO drivers. As Dave just said asio4all is really not ASIO drivers but a type of wrapper. It's considered a last resort if nothing else works. I tried it years ago and found I had terrible syncing issues. Stick to using the most up to date ASIO drivers or WDM. This is the recommendation by Cakewalk, try both first before using asio4all.  

    Johnny V  
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    Re: Crashed my system and re-installing everything 2013/06/08 13:41:43 (permalink)
    Oh, I uninstalled asio4all and just switched the m-audio driver mode to asio and it appears to be working properly now. When I tried WDM mode I get a message saying that something is using the WDM drivers or they won't support the bit rate ect. I remember that this was an issue a while ago and I found that there is an option in XP buried deep somewhere to get XP to let go of the drivers, but I can't remember where it is buried at now. It is a moot point now that I found that ASIO allows me to synch my two cards, so I really don't need to dig for that option using ASIO.
     
    Unless someone remembers where that setting is, I wouldn't mind finding it again.

    Peace,
    Johnny Philko
    http://www.myspace.com/johnnyphilko

    Motherboard:Asus Model P5B-E
    CPU Name: Q6600 Quad Core
    Ram: 2 gig matched DDRAM DDR dual channel
    Audio: Delta 1010/44 ASIO Mode
    Sonar PE 6.2.1
    Dual StarLogic 19" LCD Monitors
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