rodreb
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Crashes in X2a!
More crashes with X2a than with any version of Sonar that I've ever had. Some happen when I'm messing with buses but, not every time. It also happens at other seemingly random times. Kinda sad, Sonar 8.3.2 was super stable for me. NEVER, EVER, crashed!
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daveny5
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/21 23:32:30
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Could be a problem with your computer. X2 uses more resources than 8.5. You should run a memory test and a full anti-virus scan. Also, please post your computer specs and soundcard information. Edit: Sorry for the previous response.
post edited by daveny5 - 2013/05/22 11:37:48
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 00:05:18
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Brand new HP. Intel i5. Windows 7 64 bit. 8 gigs RAM. 2 hard drives (1 for programs, 1 for audio). For what it's worth.... I have both Sonar 8.3.2 and X2a on this computer and 8.3.2 is still just solid as a rock. X2a.... not so much. To be fair, the crashes don't happen all the time but, you never know when it's gonna go. Frustrating. As far as "fix my computer", what the Hell does that mean? As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with my computer. If there were, why would 8.3.2 be so dependable when X2a is not?
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 02:15:56
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Hi Rod, I've had to go back to X1 which is really frustrating. X2 has completely shaken my confidence. Too buggy and unpredictable on my system to have any faith in it. Waiting for x2b before giving it another chance. cheers
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 04:05:46
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Rod - I also have gone back to X1 and am (STILL) waiting for X2b - the various graphical bugs were not something I could work with. Nigel
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dorism
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 15:23:23
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Quick update on my bug reporting fest from a few nights ago. Some of the results are in! Bug 1- I can select audio tracks in PRV - Response. Works as intended (??) Bug 2- bouncing a take does not remove/tidy up the empty take lane - Response. Works as expected Bug 3- pentagon does not appear as an audio fx anymore - Response - Works as expected Bug 4- graphical glitches - apparently I need to call support about this as its likely to be a system specific problem Pretty disappointed to be honest. Looks like I've wasted my time.
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rodreb
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 18:31:16
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dorism and bajan blue, Unfortunately, I went from 8.2.3 to X2 so, for me to go back, it's back to that. Which is absolutely stable for me but, I'm liking several of the new things in X2, just want it to stop crashing and become reliable.
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dorism
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 18:43:18
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Hi Rod, quite a jump to go back to 8.5. :-( The X series of Sonar has so much potential. it's just bugs and little things which detract from the experience. In the end though stability is king. I really think Cakewalk should be on a bug squashing release and forgetting about add ons until the core is solid.
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 20:54:11
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I'm not questioning that you guys are having a problem with graphic glitches and crashes in X2a. I do need to point out though that I'm not encountering these on either my desktop or my laptop. I'm sure that you have heard from other users that they also are not encountering these issues. My suspicion is that there may be some video drivers/hardware that X2 may have compatability problems with. You were close to sharing what was common in your systems in the previous thread. You may want to follow up with that to see where you have common configurations that may be the root of the problem Glen
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/22 21:25:26
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Hi - I may have missed an opportunity to assist with some of the unresolved issues by some of the posters to this thread, and I would like to see if there is anything I can do, or we in the forum can collectively do to help these folks get resolution to these issues. Soooo: @Bajan Blue - I did a quick search of the forum trying to find X2 threads you had started regarding your X2 issues, but there were lots of results to wade through. Would you please consider either bumping an existing thread you had started previously, or post a new thread detailing your system specs and your X2 issues? I would like a crack at trying to get some resolution for you, if possible. I believe these were graphics problems, but perhaps there are other issues as well. Thanks. @dorism - same question - it appears you may have had multiple threads out there for your reported X2 issues with: Take Lanes, Pentagon, and graphics issues - bumping threads you already have out there for these issues would be the best choice, if you can find them. I use Google search terms of site:cakewalk.com forum (without quotes) and add whatever other terms I want to look for, so an example would be: site:cakewalk.com forum robert_e_bone Kontakt, etc.... Thanks Sorry - I did wade through a bit on the threads, and found this recent one: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2829418&mpage=1 - which talks about redrawing being intermittently glitchy. I will look at this - I saw your specs listed in the thread, I will likely bump it to get it active again and see if there is anything I can offer on it. Do you have additional threads for X2 issues? @rodreb - I apologize for jumping in, I am trying to extricate the above issues from this thread so that they can get evaluated on their own and not mingled in with your thread issue - so that your thread does not actually get hijacked. I will also try to assist in this thread, if possible. Bob Bone
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/23 01:27:00
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I think you guys should be looking for a common solution to your problem here rather than just saying its x2. everyones computer is different as is every version of sonar. but I haven't experienced any of these graphical glitches myself and not a few of these other problems either. but it could very well be maybe a windows update that made things different, possibly a graphic card/os issue. possibly soundcard issues, it could be anything. trust me im the first person to say sonar would suk. I paid good money for it and if theres something not right im very vocal. but ive been using sonar in a professional studio almost 8 hours a day and then bringing this work home at night sometimes for another 3-4 hours and its been very solid. I haven't had a crash in almost 2 months. I narrowed that down to a third party plug in (32 it) in a 64 bit system. please, before you give up, don't get discouraged. I know that's easier said than done but don't, work together and solve some of the issues that are in your control. how do I know these issues are in your control ? because im not having them. not all of them anyway, some I haven't yet got a chance to verify as ive been swamped with work here. my best to you all. you paid good money, cake can fix some things but other things are up to us. :)
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/23 02:23:01
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Bob thanks. I've replied to your post on the X2a stability thread. I'll report results back later... thank you for your help. similarly Charlie. appreciate your attention on this mate. I'm all over the self diagnosis thing. I have a roll back point on w7 which I will go back to tonight. basically it's a fresh W7 install, with Sonar installed. let's see if it makes a difference. I'm not holding my breath mind you. I have been around Sonar for many years and I know how to optimise a DAW. I am convinced what I and others are experiencing are bugs but given the lack of recognition this issue is getting from support I will pursue my own path as you suggest.
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/23 08:05:51
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Bob Thanks for the input - I'm away from my machine for the next couple of days - I'll get back to you soon as I can Nigel
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/23 11:41:45
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I have been around Sonar for many years and I know how to optimise a DAW. Really? What did you do to optimize your DAW? Did you overclock the CPU or the chipset? IMHO, Windows 7 or 8 don't really need any optimizing.
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/23 12:53:04
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Dave, agreed. With W7 out the box with enough memory you shouldn't need to. especially on a Cakewalk approved pc such as I have which is a HPZ420 and a decent soundcard. Pre windows 7 different story! cheers Michael
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/26 03:59:41
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So, my crashes appear to be happening when I click on a bus. Happened twice tonight. Both times when I clicked on a bus to make some adjustments. 1st time the Master bus, 2nd time the drum bus. ? Intel i5. Windows 7 64 bit. 8 gigs RAM. 2 hard drives (1 for programs, 1 for audio), X2a
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/26 04:56:51
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rodreb So, my crashes appear to be happening when I click on a bus. Happened twice tonight. Both times when I clicked on a bus to make some adjustments. 1st time the Master bus, 2nd time the drum bus. ? Intel i5. Windows 7 64 bit. 8 gigs RAM. 2 hard drives (1 for programs, 1 for audio), X2a Can you detail what, if anything is on each bus? Also, what adjustments were you trying to make when it crashed? Thanks, Bob Bone
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/26 08:27:53
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Do you have the Pro Channel (PC) open in the inspector view? If you do, try collapsing the inspector to see if it still does this. Alternatively, try setting the inspector to the clip or bus view instead of PC to see if that helps. GLen
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/26 09:15:02
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Sounds to me like you have some bad memory. I'd run a full memory test in Windows or using memtest. Or a bad plug-in... What plug-ins are you using?
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Re:Crashes in X2a!
2013/05/26 10:21:16
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there are others posting about crashes when touching the master bus when the console view is floated. I float the multi-doc and have the CV docked. I am not having any crashes. I also ran the same setup on my older quad core and did not have any crashes related the the bus. Hope you get it sorted.
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