Creating Amp Feedback digitally

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2006/07/13 20:52:39 (permalink)

Creating Amp Feedback digitally

It may sound strange, but has anyone ever tried creating feedback digitally, like you would get in front of a cranked amp? I live in an apartment and cranking my half stack is not an option. I tried with a practice amp, but it was really uncontrollable and still neighbor bothering loud.

I was thinking of using what I recording, snipping bits and pieces and then pitch shifting them and adding reverb....I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried this and if anyone has suggestions I'm all ears.

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    lazarous
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/14 16:23:22 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: myucka
    It may sound strange, but has anyone ever tried creating feedback digitally, like you would get in front of a cranked amp? I live in an apartment and cranking my half stack is not an option. I tried with a practice amp, but it was really uncontrollable and still neighbor bothering loud.

    I was thinking of using what I recording, snipping bits and pieces and then pitch shifting them and adding reverb....I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried this and if anyone has suggestions I'm all ears.

    Interesting question. I think my suggestion would be to try to head to a rehearsal space or something to do the tracking you need, or to an actual recording studio. Bring in a rough mix, lay down as many tracks as you need at all the volume you need, leave after an hour. Project studios often run between $25-75 per hour, which shouldn't be an insurmountable amount, I'd think.

    Good luck! Let us know if you figure something out!

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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/14 18:40:56 (permalink)
    Here's a trick I've used with electric guitar that works pretty well. Suppose you're recording through a pod or whatever, but you also want to be able to get feedback. I'll have the guitar player plug in through the pod, and then split the pod's output, one output to the computer, and one to one of those little battery-powered practice amps. Turn up the gain on the practice amp (it doesn't have to be loud, just high-gain) and play with the amp in front of the guitar. the feedback will be picked up by the guitar's pickups and fed back into the pod, which will deliver the feedback sound to the computer. If you have low enough latency, you can acually do this with the computer's output-- just route a spare output to a little practice amp with a high gain setting and go at it.

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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/15 20:19:45 (permalink)
    myucka,
    I recall that Boss had a pedal that would do feedback.
    I used to enjoy messing around with it when I was working in the music stores.( mid 80's)
    It might of been discontinued , not sure, but it worked rather nicely , even at a wisper.

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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/15 20:54:29 (permalink)
    I'm getting a 5 watt "Badcat", just for this purpose. What I'd do is say ***** the neighbors for about an hour (or get permission) and record some real guitar with your amp and a mic. That's what I do, but my neighbors are cows (I know a lot of women are). But really, nothing is going to sound like real guitar, but a guitar thru an amp......................
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/15 21:56:56 (permalink)
    johndale,
    Whats happening?
    Your lucky a man .
    I wish I could bring the amp into play. lol
    Don't want to rile the neighbors in my new digs.

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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/16 05:06:32 (permalink)
    Same old, same old Kenny. Playin' and recording. Got a lot of new tunes, nothing groundbreaking, but I think I'm following a good progression. We are turning our blues/jazz into torch music. Different, what we do live seems to go over. Lifes good though, no complaints. How 'bout yourself?..............
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/17 21:00:05 (permalink)
    johndale, same over here , playing , learning a new city , writing some new tunes.
    Waiting for Sonar5 SE to arrive ......
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/18 01:14:45 (permalink)
    Kenny, where did you finally choose? I've lived all up and down both coasts. I just have a thing about being able to look at the Humbolt hills from my studio window......................
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/18 03:20:31 (permalink)
    johndale,
    Vancouver WA which is just outside Portland OR.
    I like the cooler temps and trees.
    Sure miss what Humbolt is famous for............
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/18 11:08:53 (permalink)

    Sure miss what Humbolt is famous for............


    Fog?

    just kidding. Moved back to Arcata from Oregon last month. Love being back except for the fog.

    myucka, I doubt software could do the sound of true feedback, or even close really. Im going to try yep's trick though. That sounds promising.
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/18 12:00:36 (permalink)
    Another options would be to add in a feedback loop or sample and fake it.
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/18 12:42:13 (permalink)
    I don't think you can do this effectively
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/19 00:41:15 (permalink)
    I got a feedback on my system (I was trying to patch in an outboard reverb) and it took all of 10 ms to overdrive into clipping and pissing off neighbors. Not to mention my ears and hopefully not my M1 Actives.

    We'll make sure that doesn't happen again.

    I do like the idea of patching out to a 5 watt amp.
    Still recording direct, with the advantages of speaker driven feedback. Good idea.

    I got a Harmony 303A for $20 at a yard sale.
    3 tubes and a 4 inch speaker. circa-1962, breaks up nicely at conversation volumes.

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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/19 02:36:05 (permalink)
    I've never had any luck either, making usable feedback digitally. Yeah Kenny, I lived in Clark County for a while '93. Not a bad music scene there. Have you been to that Pawnshop there downtown. You would know as they actually have/had some good stuff at fair prices. Don't see much of that anymore. Cruise west on that hwy on the North side of the Columbia, you will find many old hippies. Town called "White Salmon", lots of good scooter people go to a bar there, right on 74. Might releive your "Homesickness". NoCriminalIntent, I'm in Red Bluff if you ever come over, this side of the hill, email me first. We could get up, jam, record?? I play sometimes in Ft. Bragg, Eureka over that way. But I'm legally blind and Kali snatched my DL for that reason. So I am always with others over there. You ever go to the "Moonstone" shop? I know Steve........
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/19 09:25:42 (permalink)
    John, email me when you are going to be in town and we'll hook up. Dont get over to Red Bluff often. Plus this time of year Id be afraid that the tires would melt if I parked too long in one spot. Nothing like a summer oven, eh? I quess you get used to the heat after awhile.

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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/20 03:43:07 (permalink)
    NCI, I'm from Va. Beach originally. Till I was like 26 that was home base. You never get used to this oven, you just learn to adapt. We play up at Shasta and Alamor Lakes alot, so I get my "breathers". Yes I will email you. We have a gig I think in Crecent City in September, I'll email. Come out sit in, drink free band beer. I always get free draft (band beer) in our ryder. We never abuse it so I never get an arguement. We TRY to stay away from the alkyhol while working. Club owners really do not like drunk bands, no matter how much they smile. That would be cool...................
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/20 22:35:14 (permalink)
    johndale,
    Yeah theres a pretty hip all music pawn shop called Briz on Washington st.
    Got some realy low prices on most of the inventory.
    I was supprised actualy to find such a cool place up here.
    When I get a chance I will check out White Salmon.
    Man I loved The Shasta Area, someday...........
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/21 02:25:58 (permalink)
    TYes Kenny I think thats the place, couple blocks south of Mill Plain. Now this was over 10 years ago but out in Battle Ground was a bar that had great jam sessions. Some surprisingly good players. Kind of an "Americana" thing at the time. People played Jazz, Blues, Country, or any combo. I remember the place was like you could bring a Champ and a Tele, and have a great time. Don't know if it is still there or not. But Portland is a music hotbed still. Sometimes Portland bands come thru here on their way to SF or LA .and we open for them. The scene must be great as how pro and well put together these acts are. Curtis Salgado works out of Portland. We opened for him last year, fantastic different blues player, blues harp the way it should be played. I can say that. In fact I just pulled this out of my bookmarks for you http://www.curtissalgado.com/biography.html ,check him out. Your in a good place Kenny, beats LA IMHO anyday.......................
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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/23 13:54:13 (permalink)
    Though never tried, but there is this ndc Plugs - Feedback-y Thing...

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    RE: Creating Amp Feedback digitally 2006/07/23 16:52:04 (permalink)
    I have A BOSS GT-6 guitar processor and Feedback is one of the options on it. Works great too.

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