Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer?

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Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer?

Hey Guys.
 
I am trying to create some drum tracks for me (Guitar) and our Bass player to play along to before we get a drummer. I am now at the point of putting down the notes in either Step Sequencer or Piano Roll but I am a little confused which one would be best.
 
The step sequencer looks easier to use to put something together but its limited to 64 beats so doesnt look like it would work for anything long enough like our 6 minute song. The piano Roll doesn't seem to have that issue but it does not look very friendly or easy to use.
 
All help is very much appreciated.
 
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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/21 12:35:41 (permalink)
    if you're on splat, use addictive drums 2. takes a while to master, but there's a wealth of tutorials. all you do is select a kit, select a beat, drag-n-drop the beat to a midi track routed to ad2. earlier versions of sonar have session drummer...
     
    or, use fruity loops to create patterns, save as wav, import into sonar.

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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/21 12:44:04 (permalink)
    dlion16
    if you're on splat, use addictive drums 2. takes a while to master, but there's a wealth of tutorials. all you do is select a kit, select a beat, drag-n-drop the beat to a midi track routed to ad2. earlier versions of sonar have session drummer...
     
    or, use fruity loops to create patterns, save as wav, import into sonar.




     
    Thanks for answering so quickly.
     
    I did look at  Addictive drums but I don't seem to have it. I have Sonar Professional from Steam purchased in February this year (2016). Is that normal or should I have  Addictive drums? Like you say... there were quite a few videos.
    post edited by castingflame - 2016/09/21 13:57:15
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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/21 12:45:06 (permalink)
    I mostly use the Drum Pane in the PRV with a drum map.
    While the step sequencer has a limit of 64 beats, there may be more than one step sequencer clip in a MIDI/Instrument track and each clip may use a separate instance of the step sequencer.
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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/21 14:34:15 (permalink)
    Addictive has its own installer, the link and your serial number should be in the email you got when you purchases sonar, or in your account, software… 

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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/22 04:38:46 (permalink)
    I have the Steam version of Sonar Professional.
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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/22 04:57:30 (permalink)
    Hi,

    Professional version should have Addictive according to http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions/
    SO you should have Solo Bundle (choose 1 ADpak). But go to Cakewalk site SSO account https://www.cakewalk.com/My-Account and choose my products then XLN Addictive Drums and get serial & instructions there

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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/22 05:24:10 (permalink)
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    Hi,

    Professional version should have Addictive according to http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions/
    SO you should have Solo Bundle (choose 1 ADpak). But go to Cakewalk site SSO account https://www.cakewalk.com/My-Account and choose my products then XLN Addictive Drums and get serial & instructions there

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    Doesn't look like I do. Well that's pretty rubbish that just because I chose to purchase it over Steam its a different product. It is not advertised that way.
     
    Upgrading to the Sonar Lifetime and Platinum is also an issue. I spend money upgrading from Steam edition to Professional edition but now there is an upgrade from from Steam edition OR Platinum to SPLAT edition for the same money. That does not seem fair to me. All that other money upgrading to Platinum is wasted.
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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/22 07:00:24 (permalink)
    Yes, it is really confusing. Please write to sale support. In the contrary to technical support they tend to answer. But be patient it could take a while.
    Such big difference can be kind of bug on your account.
    Please observe here:
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690432694
     
    It is also pointed Professional should include XLN Addictive Drums 2 Solo.
     
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    Re: Creating a Midi Drum backing track with Sonar - Piano Roll or Step Sequencer? 2016/09/22 09:28:25 (permalink)
    post in the steam forum, seth is very responsive there

    just a sec

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