Creating midi triplets?

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2016/10/12 14:33:23 (permalink)

Creating midi triplets?

Never been able to read or write music notation, and am not familiar with all the terminology. I just write what I write. But I'm trying to get a specific midi pattern, which I believe is made of triplets???
 
A good example would be the famous riff of "Rawhide", or the synth bass line in New Order's "Blue Monday". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftJZomwDhxQ
 
The pattern would be something like X XXX XXX XXX XXX.  Lol. Sorry, but that's the only way I can really interpret it in print. 
 
I just can't figure out a way to do this in Sonar. I've tried the PRV and Step Sequencer, Step recording, etc. I know it's just a lack of my musical notation knowledge. But can someone point me in the right direction for creating such a line in SPLAT.
 
Thanks so much.
 
~Jeff
 

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    brundlefly
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    Re: Creating midi triplets? 2016/10/12 15:04:35 (permalink)
    The pattern in the Blue Monday video sounds like straight 8ths to me. But for the Rawhide pattern try this (for tempos around 100):
     
    - Set snap and grid to 16th triplets in the PRV.
    - Enter notes on the 1st, 4th and 5th gridlines of the first beat.
    - Set the velocity of the second two notes approx, 20-30 lower than the first.
    - Copy that pattern through the other three beats of the bar.

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    Re: Creating midi triplets? 2016/10/12 15:12:27 (permalink)
    Thanks Fly. That's exactly what I was looking for. I'll give it a shot.
     
    I think the Blue Monday pattern switches to 8ths when the vocals come in, but the first part definitely has some trips in it, like Rawhide (I think).

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    Re: Creating midi triplets? 2016/10/13 15:15:51 (permalink)
    Sorry Jeff, I don't hear triplets in either song, both sound straight four to me. Making use of 8th & 16th notes and 8th note rests.
    Which part are you referring to as triplets?
     

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    Re: Creating midi triplets? 2016/10/13 17:37:58 (permalink)
    jatoth
    Sorry Jeff, I don't hear triplets in either song, both sound straight four to me. Making use of 8th & 16th notes and 8th note rests.
    Which part are you referring to as triplets?
     


    Hey John. Lol. You're probably right, it's just my lack of music notation knowledge. I guess I should actually Youtube what a triplet sounds like before posting on this forum. I thought what I was hearing were triplets. But let me listen back to it and I'll get you a time-frame reference on the song video.
     
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    Re: Creating midi triplets? 2016/10/13 19:14:51 (permalink)
    Ya, neither song is a triplet. That synth line is just not playing all of the 1/8th notes but it is straight 4/4 time
    Rawhide is 2/4 time common with C&W and Bluegrass.
    Triplets are found in a lot of R&B, Blues, 6/8 time and 3/4 time stuff   my teacher gave me an easy to remember count- you go
    TRI_PL_LET  it's like counting 3 four times per measure   123-123-123-123 .. 
    That's a very simplified explaination as most song won't use it like that.
    Like the snare roll in you ain't nothing but a  Houndog.
    Country swing and songs like Rock around the Clock,, Triplets give music swing.
     
    Often you'll play a part and quantize to 1/8th notes and it just plain sounds all wrong.
    So try the 1/8th Triplet and see if it make it right.

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    Re: Creating midi triplets? 2016/10/13 19:50:56 (permalink)
    Yeah, not sure what I hit on Youtube the first time that had the triplet pattern, but all the examples of Rawhide I'm getting now are just straight 16ths, resting/skipping the 2nd 16th of every beat.

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