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Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
Yesterday morning I made a $49 purchase on the EW web store for Solo Violin Yesterday afternoon I noticed two charges , one for $1 to Google (the "test purchase form the hacker) and one for $106 to a Hauge Auto repair in San. Diego I tried Googling the car repair place and came up empty handed. Called my bank immediately , and closed that card, proble is the charges ar epending and wont drop off till monday, so I may be charged and have to file a fraud report to get my money back. I ran all the usual A/V stuff and no trojans or keyloggers show up, my PC is clean. The EW store is supposed to be the California one, so Im wondering since the charge was in Ca too if theres a connection. Now I wait till Monday with an knotted stomach, NO debit card for a weeek or so, and a burning desire to shoot all hackers..
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 13:01:27
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I loathe and despise card hackers, sorry to hear about that. Your bank should have spotted that $1 transaction, it's the classic hacker 'test' purchase. I had that a year or so ago, and the fraud dept from my bank were on the phone to me within hours.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 13:43:12
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Man atleast you have it locked down. Id get with the police and store ASAP and see if they cant get the person with the vehicle repair It would be nice to see the police take over as the repair shop and once the repair and transaction is complete, slam 'em and cuff 'em
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 14:03:07
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Stuff like this makes me realize I don't check my account nearly as often as I should.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 14:10:34
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The $1 test might not work with my checking balance...
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 14:39:58
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Another reason I NEVER use my debit card for net purchases...not that it can't happen in a brick and mortar too.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 14:45:00
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yorolpal Another reason I NEVER use my debit card for net purchases...not that it can't happen in a brick and mortar too. Ya, I always use Bapu's. Heck, he'd never notice a couple transactions buried among the 100's of others, roight?
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 15:21:24
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It 'might' have been a person at EW and I suppose that explains the fake details; Hauge Auto because those details can be easily entered by staff and as you said; it came from the same location; CA. Agree with Yorolpal; these problems can also occur at brick and mortar sites. I've had unauthorized transactions occur in the past; immediately closed that account. I guess the police will eventually catch up with the thief. What my wife and i do now for any 'online' transaction is; plan to shop for and cover the cost for just prior (same day, within 2 hour window) and after purchase the debit card balance remains at just $1. Did I forget to mention I still prefer to use good old cash!
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 18:03:44
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My debit card was hacked after a web purchase a year ago. Friday night on payday my account was fat. Next morning I logged on to the bank website to pay some bills online. Huh?? $34 balance??? WESTERN UNION CASH TRANSFERS??!!! Picked up in person in ECUADOR???!!! The bank made good but I NEVER used my debit card online again.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 19:46:43
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I had started using a prepaid CC for transactions like this, and would load up the required amount before the tranaction, but I stopped using it because I had to go to mt credit union to refill it and sometimes there was a time frame, . I usually try to call the merchant and place the order over the phone, but EW had no option for that .. I think I am going to start using it again...
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 23:14:14
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PayPal for the win! Sorry to hear of your theft MM. A month or so ago my girlfriend purchased some perfume for her and a bottle of cologne for me. The next day there were 3 charges pending with a total of just under $600. All for Cheap Tickets (the site she got the perfume from happened to be Cheap Scents or something like that). She called the bank and they closed the card. We went to open a new one for her and they were able to put the pending transaction ones back into her account within 3 days. The bank also found one more that actually went through for another $100-ish. That one took 10 days to investigate and about 3 weeks to get the money back. She is still leery of using her card even at restaurants, gas stations and stores like Macy's. I told her that while credit card theft can happen pretty much anywhere, most major store's are usually pretty safe. I told her that my guess was with the scent company. I opened he up a PayPal account and told her use that whenever possible. I also informed her about the HTTPS thing. MAKE SURE YOU SEE THE 'S' is now drilled into her head. But first and foremost never buy off shady sites. Try to stay with the names you know like Staples, Target, JC Penny and so on. Not Bapu's house of cheap slightly used VST's. It sucks for you because you did shop through a reputable merchant. But that doesn't mean that all their employees are reputable. All it takes is one person to be tight on the cash with a busted up car and access to your card info. Mike
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/05 23:20:01
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I guess the police will eventually catch up with the thief. I was talking with the bank lady who helped with my girlfriends issue. She said unless it's a sizable amount (like $10,000 or more) the bank doesn't even bother trying to find the thief. Insurance just covers it. Not worth the time and effort to go hunting. Mike
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 00:05:23
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chefmike8888 But first and foremost never buy off shady sites. Try to stay with the names you know like Staples, Target, JC Penny and so on. Not Bapu's house of cheap slightly used VST's. NOW you tell me!
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:27:19
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I let my daughter use my AMEX to buy something from Ticketmaster. Next statement I had been charged for some really expensive seats to a Braves/Yankees game. I haven't been to a Braves game in well over a decade. I called AMEX and they started an investigation or whatever they do. In a few weeks I got a letter telling me that I had purchased the tickets and was responsible for the charge. I immediately called them and told them I was NOT responsible and was not going to pay a penny of the charge,was pi55ed. Whoever I talked to apologized and fixed it pertty quickly. I've had the card for years, always pay my bill on time, and never go to Braves games. I think they just tried to see if I would lay down... I didn't and they fixed it. Initially they cancelled the card in question and sent me a new one which I got in two days, thought that was pretty good service and in the end they fixed it but it really ticked me off when they sent me a letter telling me that I bought the tickets. I wonder how many people give up at that point and just pay it. I wouldn't have paid it if it was 4.99... I mostly use the AMEX for all online transactions. Now and then I will be forced into Paypal but I usually don't use it unless I have to. I will remember to never use my debit card... thanks for the reminder... good, helpful post!! J
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:32:21
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Prolly not hacked.... just stolen by an employee of the business. Happens all the time. I had mine stolen at the beginning of a trip to Argentina. I had notified them I was going to Argentina. I bought something in the Miami airport and the store clerk said their electronic reader was not working... they needed to press the card... old fashioned way. I have no doubt my card number was lifted from that pressed receipt. After I returned I had a call waiting from the CC company. I went through all the purchases I made in Argentina, with them.... among all the small purchases I made, there was a $1500+ purchase at some store in California on the list. Not my purchase. They issued a new card and changed the numbers, and credited my account properly to reflect the fraud. They basically said the same thing.... they don't chase the thief.... they do charge back to the store that accepted the fraudulent purchase and let them chase the thief if they wish to do so.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:35:10
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I was using PP and had to link my banking info because i "exceeded my $5000 credt limit" (which I dispute, but nevertheless). I removed my bank information due to some comments and comcerns on another forum about PP issues and bank links. Now to use PP again I have to relink my bank info and worry about that. I read comments here that guys are doing that with no problems. I read somewhere that All our personal information has been captured anyway and hacked and is sitting over on East Europe hard drives waiting to be exploited.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:39:43
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jbow ...In a few weeks I got a letter telling me that I had purchased the tickets and was responsible for the charge. I immediately called them and told them I was NOT responsible and was not going to pay a penny of the charge,was pi55ed. Whoever I talked to apologized and fixed it pertty quickly. I've had the card for years, always pay my bill on time, and never go to Braves games. I think they just tried to see if I would lay down... I didn't and they fixed it. We've had similar experiences...my wife had her handbag stolen a few years back and the thief managed to withdraw several hundred pounds in cash at an ATM about 30 miles away using her Barclaycard. We got a letter from Barclaycard basically accusing my wife of colluding with someone and giving them her PIN. She didn't take too kindly to that, and they backed down eventually and refunded the money. We still can't figure out how he did that, because my wife didn't know the PIN herself, she only used the card online. Oh yeah..the guy was filmed on CCTV using my wife's card at the ATM...police never even followed it up.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:40:33
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I read somewhere that All our personal information has been captured anyway and hacked and is sitting over on East Europe hard drives waiting to be exploited. Well OK, but it wont do them a lot of good. I do my best to spend my money or keep paying off the house... I am beginning to wonder about the wisdo of that. My luck, I will pay off the house then the govt. will forgive all mortgages. Everything seems to be changing except me. J
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:41:43
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craigb The $1 test might not work with my checking balance... Yup, same here...
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:42:47
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Sorry to hear of your misfortune, musicman. :( I hope it gets sorted and doesn't cost you anything. It's amazing how this stuff happens. The hackers entice people that are in need of cash and it's usually quick and painless. I used to own a swimming pool supply store. We sold pools, chemicals, floats, parts, filters...you get the idea. We had all sorts of people come in and try to sell us things off the street. Some things, you just couldn't say no to...others, were alarming. I had one guy come in and whisper to one of my girls at the counter "I'll give you $100 cash for every credit card number you can supply me with" and he pulled out a wad of cash. She smiled and said "deal...let me go in the back and get all the accounts I can find as we don't keep any of that information up here." She went into the back (we had another girl working the counter too, so he wasn't left alone) and he must have seen the phone light up. She called the police but he was gone by the time she came back. She gave a description but we don't know if he was ever caught. This is how these people operate....and if someone is hurting enough, it's too easy to supply the information and take the money. I don't use any CC's or my debit card for online purchases....paypal for me until that God forbid fails...then I'm done with internet purchases for life. -Danny
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 10:43:47
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I hate a theif. I think we need to bring back cruel and unusual punishment. J
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 11:25:10
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jbow I hate a theif. I think we need to bring back cruel and unusual punishment. J I'm so with you there brother. I've had more things stolen from me in my life than I care to think about. I definitely think we need to get tougher on any theif that has blatant evidence against him. I too wouldn't mind the cruel and unusual punishment...however, unless there is blatant proof, I'd hate to see someone innocent go through that when they didn't deserve it. But anyone that has cold, hard proof against them....eye for an eye. Instead they get a slap on the wrist and get a chance to go back out and do something far worse...and after that, the worst case scenario, another slap on the wrist or 3 meals a day with a place to sleep. Might be bad living conditions in jail, but some of them have better lives than homeless people. :( -Danny
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 13:00:05
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Hi, Both FIA and Bank of America, are notorious for this. But there are not "external" hackers, as you never see/get anyone busted up for it. It's an internal scoop! Check this out! I got the card with a really LOW rate. Within a year, the account was hacked 3 times, and the Interest Rate went up. They returned the moneys, etc, etc, etc, but the interest rate went UP ... why? ... your account is now one with a "higher risk", and therefore, your interest goes up! A month later, someone calls asking if I want to get the insurance for the account which costs 9.95 per month ... but the interest rate is still NOT returned to the low interest! So, I did not renew and asked the FIA account to close ... and these accounts were "transferred" to Bank of America, and they issued a new card on an "inactive" account ... AND THE MF'RS PROCEEDED TO "AUTHORIZE" THE CARD ILLEGALLY, AND ALLOW A PROCEDURE TO GO THROUGH! On an inactive card, they changed the expiration date on their own, and allowed an old card -- that had the previous expiration -- to be accepted by that bank ... without my permission. The hard part? You can't file complaints about this, and both Congress and House are not interested, and these financial institutions are running a muck ... besides not telling anyone what their computer code is doing underneath all of us ... that we will never know or understand! Where is the problem? ... the bank ... if someone can hack it that easy, it is obviousl that someone else can as well ... but these internal hacks are much more important and dangerous than any other hack out there. That said, there are "pros" out there ... but I would easily state that a good 75% of these are internal and can not be prosecuted, because the banks do not report them, and the police and FBI are not interested in banks except when they get robbed! Just like the movies!
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 13:36:36
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I don't know what sort of punishment is dished out against thieves of this sort but I guess anything exceeding more than $500 is a felony, whoever is involved in this sort of thief probably has far exceeded that amount because once they start it's becomes like an obsession, and so greed kicks in, selfishness, no ethics, all these traits already long established. I've always felt that money is the seed of all the types of crimes that occur and transaction technology doesn't go near enough to protect us. Do away with money but thieves will target property thief; hey nice jacket, love the boots, dig the car, oh what a lovely boat,; mind if I help myself to your home whilst your out So what can you do?, eye for an eye?, (death penalty) use violence to resolve violence? Problems is; there isn't really a straight up solution that 'everybody' will agree with in regards to dealing with convicted criminals. So far nothing has prevented further crimes,... kill one (death penalty) then later 'someone else' comes along to commit a more serious crime and so on and so forth. Unfortunately this is indeed the trend and it makes you think... hey these criminals must be sick minded to do such a crime no matter the consequences (death penalty). The way technology is heading; there are options to use location tracking. If criminals remove the tracking then in the slammer you go. But does this go far enough? Somehow; criminals need to 'give back' to society, to actually contribute in ways that improves the lives of decent folks.... It takes a screwed up mind to commit the crime so how about radical alterations of convicted criminal brains by using locked-on (screwed on) head-bands that turns criminals into smiley happy obeying citizens who give back to society rather than take.... Include cameras and GPS tracking system so these criminals can't go wondering beyond a set perimeter. For example; the worse criminals can assist; be put to shoveling sewer and garbage waste that is then converted into gas; to be use from heating to powering cars. Other waste can be used for creating building materials for constructing buildings that can withstand a tornado. I say; all this is giving back to society and providing a better quality of life for decent citizens. Further research in this area of brain control devices may also help people who are unable to walk or who suffer from mental disorders. It could also lead to thought-controlled interfaces.... for SONAR and with that sort of interface it could control all the lights, the kitchen gadgets and entertainment systems in the home.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 14:04:58
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Oh yeah..the guy was filmed on CCTV using my wife's card at the ATM...police never even followed it up. You know, that is just not acceptable. What the heck are the police good for if not trying to apprehend a criminal. That irritates me just to hear about it. J
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2013/01/06 14:16:50
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 14:40:18
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Back at least 15 years ago (when I still HAD money), I had my wallet pickpocketed in a Macy's mall store. It was done by a Pro (the wallet was in my front pocket even!). Within a couple of minutes of the theft, ONLY my American Express platinum card was used to buy $9,800 worth of stuff at a jewerly store not far away. They knew exactly which card to use and what limit AmEx requires verification for with that card. It was right before Christmas and really hampered by gift buying... After that I used to keep an unused credit card in a safe just to have something to use if my wallet was ever stolen again. Of course, now, I've discovered a new method. Be broke most of the time - lol!
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 17:14:14
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I was watching something on TV a few weeks ago. It was one of those 'to catch a predator' type of shows The show was on this very subject and the different ways that identity, banking info, credit cards and other such info was stolen and used. One particular gadget really caught my attention. It was a device that can easily be purchased online and how it works is that the device looks like you're walking around holding your cell phone. You get close enough to someones purse or wallet and and this device basically scans the black strip on a card and displays the info. I was shocked to see how easy this really was. The guy would just walk past a lady carrying her purse, you don't even have to be all that close either. I's not like you need to bump into the person, just walk by closely. He would then go up to her, call her by her name and ask her if the info on the screen was correct. Even if this device only works on 1 out of every 10 people because say perhaps you have too much crap in your wallet or purse. Or maybe there's too many cards together and it reads wrong. What ever the case may be. A walk through the local mall could easily get you 25 cards to play with in a short period of time. What could be the purpose of this device? Stealing, that's it. How can a company justify selling these things? The reason for the show was to stop this and even tho that place stopped selling them you know they're still out there. I'm going to Google and see if I can locate that show. Pretty disturbing. I personally don't need to worry because I stay broke like Craig. What the little lady doesn't take from me recording toys do. Mike EDIT: Ok it's coming back to me now. It's not the black strip it's the cards that have the chips in them. Not the show but HERE'S A SHORT ARTICLE.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 19:33:10
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SongCraft I don't know what sort of punishment is dished out against thieves of this sort but I guess anything exceeding more than $500 is a felony, whoever is involved in this sort of thief probably has far exceeded that amount because once they start it's becomes like an obsession, and so greed kicks in, selfishness, no ethics, all these traits already long established. I've always felt that money is the seed of all the types of crimes that occur and transaction technology doesn't go near enough to protect us. Do away with money but thieves will target property thief; hey nice jacket, love the boots, dig the car, oh what a lovely boat,; mind if I help myself to your home whilst your out So what can you do?, eye for an eye?, (death penalty) use violence to resolve violence? Problems is; there isn't really a straight up solution that 'everybody' will agree with in regards to dealing with convicted criminals. So far nothing has prevented further crimes,... kill one (death penalty) then later 'someone else' comes along to commit a more serious crime and so on and so forth. Unfortunately this is indeed the trend and it makes you think... hey these criminals must be sick minded to do such a crime no matter the consequences (death penalty). The way technology is heading; there are options to use location tracking. If criminals remove the tracking then in the slammer you go. But does this go far enough? Somehow; criminals need to 'give back' to society, to actually contribute in ways that improves the lives of decent folks.... It takes a screwed up mind to commit the crime so how about radical alterations of convicted criminal brains by using locked-on (screwed on) head-bands that turns criminals into smiley happy obeying citizens who give back to society rather than take.... Include cameras and GPS tracking system so these criminals can't go wondering beyond a set perimeter. For example; the worse criminals can assist; be put to shoveling sewer and garbage waste that is then converted into gas; to be use from heating to powering cars. Other waste can be used for creating building materials for constructing buildings that can withstand a tornado. I say; all this is giving back to society and providing a better quality of life for decent citizens. Further research in this area of brain control devices may also help people who are unable to walk or who suffer from mental disorders. It could also lead to thought-controlled interfaces.... for SONAR and with that sort of interface it could control all the lights, the kitchen gadgets and entertainment systems in the home. Very true brother. I wish I had the answers. I think each person will always have a different take on this....and it definitely depends on the person as well as what they've been through. When I tell you I've had it happen way too often, I'm seriously not kidding. I've had my house broken into 2 times to where I literally, to this day, have bars on all my lower level windows. It turned out it was my best friend doing all the stealing in our neighborhood. I've had 2 CC's hacked, I've had my shed broken into, my dirt bike stolen, tools stolen, car stolen, my rehearsal hall broken into, lost all my gear but my drum kit, the swimming pool store I used to own was robbed 3 times, my truck was stolen to where they went joy-riding and totalled it, and last but not least, I was robbed at gunpoint while out with my girl in 96. If she wasn't with me, I either would be dead or I would have taken the gun away and used it on the robber as I had the chance....I just didn't want anything to happen to her. In some of these situations, the criminals were caught and did some time, in others, nothing was done and in other cases, no one was caught. When you go through this time and time again, it starts to work on you and you can definitely be a bit more harsh about it. I definitely think there need to be tougher laws or heck, after a certain amount of times, you lose a hand, both hands or a foot....some of that stuff that goes on in other countries does cut down on crime considerably. Rape someone....you lose your willy. It's sick, it's sad, but too many innocent people perish these days and the criminals have all the rights. There just comes a time where we have to say "enough is enough." What that final answer would be....I have no clue.
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Re:Creit Card Hacked after EW webstore purchase
2013/01/06 22:05:20
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Danny, Quick off topic here. Not sure if it's not up and running yet or you shut it down but the link to My Forum, My Truth = Error 404 - Not Found and a blank white page. Ok I now return you to your local castration already in progress. Mike
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