Critique/suggestions requested on drum mix

I really like the openness from the toms and the overall sound of the kit doesn't sound bad but, and that would be a really big but (no pun intended, I think),the ring of the snare and the funky overtone of the kick is really going to get in the way come mix time.

I would definitely cut a hole in the kick head and try cutting a ring out of an old drum head to put on the snare unless you already have a store bought one. After that there's always tape.

I'd love to hear this but I get 'the current playlist has no valid files in it..' etc.

Not sure how to get around that, shame.

James

ORIGINAL: IzovAge

I really like the openness from the toms and the overall sound of the kit doesn't sound bad but, and that would be a really big but (no pun intended, I think),the ring of the snare and the funky overtone of the kick is really going to get in the way come mix time.

I would definitely cut a hole in the kick head and try cutting a ring out of an old drum head to put on the snare unless you already have a store bought one. After that there's always tape.

I agree 100%. The sound of the kick might be ok for certain styles but at some point you will definitely want more of the beater click and you need a hole in the front head to get that. Cutting a hole isn't that difficult. Take a coffee can or something about 6-8" in diameter and trace around it. Then cut it out. Remo heads come with an adhesive ring that you simply stick to the front of the head and then you use an Exacto knife to cut away the inner part of the ring. The ring prevents damage to the hole when sticking a mic in there. My local drum shop sold me on something called a fallom patch (or something like that) for the beater side. It's made of kevlar material and extends the life of the beater head and adds a little more clickiness to the sound which is great. It just sticks right to the beater head where the beaters make contact with the head.

And I also used an old cut up snare drum to make those dampers. Cut them about an inch wide and varying lengths in a circular pattern and then simply duct tape the ends to the top of the snare near the rim. Pick the length that sounds the best. That will cut down on the ring. Otherwise, excellent job! Good luck and welcome aboard.

btw: putting the mic inside the kick serves another useful purpose - it reduces the bleed from the overhead cymbals.

There you go. That sounds great. Nice sounding room.

Looking forward to hearing those drums with some music.

Looks like your a lefty, cool. Don't see that to often or at least I don't.

Forgot to mention that it's really cool to see that there are still a few real drummers around here. Myself, I don't care for the midi drum thing. I guess if that's all you've got then it's all you got but there's nothing like the real thing when it comes to music.

Peace

Hey Rich, thanks for the feedback.

I have made some adjustments since posting this sample. I am now using a resonant head with a hole on the kick drum so I can get the mic about 6" away from the batter head and offset about 4". This has really helped with better kick definition in terms of punch and click. I have also nixed the room mic in favor of using a mic on the hi-hat just to give a bit more presence than what the overheads are capturing.

Here's a recent sample for comparison: Drum Sample (Funky Groove)
I have some more samples on my site if interested: http://www.michaelsharps.com

I LOVE my 8pre. So far it has worked like a charm!

sounds pretty good

Thanks!

I'm guessing you used the 8pre on those examples off your site as well?

Yep, sure dd.

Might have to email you once I get finished demoing a couple of my tunes. I would definitely want some live drums on these tracks...

Sounds great, I'd be happy to help however I can.