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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/07 08:27:32
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TerraSin
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/07 12:39:14
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I like that change log a lot. That would be a good feature to add in Sonar.
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dmbaer
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/07 16:27:08
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The new feature set looks, at least on the surface, as not terribly exciting. Two features which many in the Cubase community has been requesting for roughly forever are Bezier curves for automation and MIDI CC lanes and more than six pre-fader plug-in insert slots in the mixer. Once again, this segment of the community has been totally ignored. I'm just wondering - any of you that keep current with SONAR releases, can you tell me where SONAR is as far as these features are concerned?
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/07 17:18:37
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Thanks for the heads up. I just got my 8 to 8.5 upgrade at the last minute so I can go to 9 when I want. Thank you.
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Resonant Serpent
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/08 01:13:50
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It's a great update, for me, and gives me the mixer undo that I wanted. There are numerous other workflow enhancements that are nice, too. I didn't think much of the Sampler Track, but after spending all evening with it, it's now part of my workflow. If you're into sound design, it makes things quick and easy when it comes to sample manipulation. Being able to dump your edit into a synth at the touch of a button is icing on the cake. I'm on Win 7, and an older project ended up using less resources and I didn't see the spikes like I used to with Kontakt. Overall, a great buy for a 100.00.
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Jeff Evans
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/08 16:25:52
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They have really tried to copy the Studio One GUI in many respects but be warned it falls well short in some areas especially the lower zone or mixer dock. Studio One is way more powerful at showing what is actually in the mixer. Also Studio One has had the equivalent to the sampler track for years with Sample One. Any audio event or track can be simply dragged into the sampler and it is immediately mapped to a keyboard and you can play it instantly from a controller. You have control over envelopes and filters etc. Just as you would in a sampler. It is just way faster to get stuff into it that is all. And it sounds perfect too. Other aspects of Cubase are good for sure. Many don't like the mixer and still export to other DAW's for those types of duties. Mixbus comes to mind especially M32C!
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Resonant Serpent
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/08 19:45:06
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Cubase blows S1 out of the water when it comes to MIDI, so it's not even a contest. Just the Logical Editor alone in Cubase sets it apart. Add in Expression Maps when you do orchestral work, and the two couldn't be farther apart. S1 can't even get their automation to work correctly, and the Project section of the program hasn't been updated in forever, which is the only reason I still own it. The S1 incompatibility with ilok/softube, etc... I could go on. The complaint with Sample One is the same complaint everyone has with S1. It uses too many resources. I can load Slate plugs that take 1 to 1.5 % in either Cubase or Reaper, and they take 5% in S1. In every stress test, S1 comes out with the lowest performance. Just a sample : https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?f=213&t=22254&sid=d9f6cd4fb4ce2217778e66a70c75d6fa Then again, does it matter what I say? You seem to follow me from thread to thread either here on the Sonar forum or the S1 forum. If you want to talk ****, do it to someone else.
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gmon72
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/08 20:44:07
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I have both S1 and Cubase (been using since the Atari days) and maybe it's my familiarity with Cubase but I haven't found anything particularly more appealing with S1. Agree MIDI is no contest. The lack of a drum editor and real drum maps keeps me from using S1 for anything more than testing.
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Jeff Evans
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/08 21:18:17
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It does depend on what DAW's you like working in and they all appeal on some level. It is interesting though how Cubase has taken a very definite Studio One like direction. Granted Cubase has extended midi functions but many also do not know the full extent of what S1's midi capabilities are either. You have to use it all the time. I use a pretty decent hardware setup as well as software and it handles all that rather well. It is also very stable now too. I have never noticed CPU usage with Sample One really. It is more about getting the job done I guess. It is still very handy and easy to drag things in play around with. Cubase would be good though if you are using a Steinberg midi interface. It allows all the LTB stuff where midi timing is very accurate and on each port very tight. I assume Cubase 9 still offers this. Some still say the mixer could be better overall. I must admit how good Mixbus is in this role. It is only time before S1 offers mixer undo or history. They will just implement it in a nicer way perhaps. I have not missed it too much personally. The version saving concept is very good for saving and recalling mixer scenes.
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ProjectM
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/09 06:32:41
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Well, that looks nice. I won't be going over to Cubase anytime soon but I work at a place where we use Nuendo. I suppose we'll see some of this implemented in the near future. That Zone thing sure makes Cubase (finally) look like Studio 1, Logic, Sonar, Traction etc. No good idea goes unstolen I guess
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MachineClaw
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/09 10:08:28
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☄ Helpfulby cecelius2 2016/12/09 17:14:27
be aware that Cubase 9 is the 1st Cubase to only support 64bit plugins and 32bit plugins no longer work in Cubase 9. it's putting a lot of people off because of legacy plugins or just older still working plugins that no longer will be supported or work in Cubase 9. that's a big deal. not all of my plugins are 64 bit - about 90% are but there are a few that I still love and hold onto that I will not be able to use in Cubase 9. just be aware and look into it if your planning to upgrade to Cubase 9. you may have to do some homework and workarounds to keep DAWing.
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gmon72
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/10 01:22:40
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I've seen Steinberg post that jbridge will still work with C9 if needed. In fact jbridge just was updated today for better C9 capability.
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MachineClaw
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/11 10:25:12
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that's cool. I don't have JBridge. really don't wanna pay another $50 just to have my plugins work like they did last week. progress I guess. it's good that there is a solution and that it's not just an arm cut off deal with it thing.
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gmon72
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Re: Cubase Pro 9!
2016/12/11 11:10:53
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Just FYI jbridge is 15 euros. I have a few 32 but plugins too. Haven't tried them with jbridge yet though.
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