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Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase....

doing so because of price? Just curious..
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:10:00 (permalink)
Nope.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:10:22 (permalink)
Mostly just my opinion based off thepast few days of research iv conducted and the little experience I've had with Cubase. From my research, Cubase focused a bit more on the Midi side (I could be wrong, but just what I've seen) where as i deal mostly with Audio mixing/mastering so i use almost no Midi except for the occasional vocoder or to trigger vocal scatters/stutters etc... which i usually do manually anyways. Studio one has Melodyne integrated through ARA like Sonar, and aux tracks/busses are similar, so that feels a bit more like home. The lay out as far as the windows and style of the dockings are very similar to Sonar and can be undocked/moved etc... I seriously considered Cubase for a few days, especially since I own Wavelab. Cubase and Wavelab work very well together as they can share projects for different aspects of the mixing process.
 
So in summary, its a great price and it feels much like home in Sonar although I still miss little details that Sonar has that just make it smoother such as the smart tool which made it easy to navigate pretty much everything. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:12:32 (permalink)
In all honesty, i will still be using Sonar for the foreseeable future but just trying to learn another DAW when or if the day comes that it no longer works or becomes obsolete.
 
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:14:01 (permalink)
thanks...I'm leaning toward Cubase because of having to write to picture, and it seems a little better in handling video
I like the new sampler track too. But I hate the Ilicense USB thingy!
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:14:29 (permalink)
dannyjmusic
doing so because of price? Just curious..




A couple of things for me.
 
Price.
 
I don't like hardware dongles, although I admit that this would negate any online or even offline activation problems.
 
No download option. Only boxed software available. Minor thing, but a thing for me all the same.
 
I have tried Cubase in the past, quite a long time ago to be fair, but I couldn't get my head around it in the same time I have been able to with Studio One (and Mixcraft, which I have already tried).
 
No downloadable demo. I don't want to bother with Elements.
 
And I have just run out of time and patience anyways, and pulled the trigger on Studio One.
 
 
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:16:05 (permalink)
I am getting both Cubase and Studio one.
But Cubase will be my primary DAW.

Currently I do not use Soft Synth (never) and I think Cubase will integrate better with my hardware devices especially given majority of my sound sources are Yamaha, which own Steinberg.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:19:14 (permalink)
I chose Studio One over Cubase. And though I'm a heavy MIDI user, I don't delve into the deep MIDI features that Cubase has.  If you need those, then Cubase clearly has the advantage.
 
But overall, I'd have to point to three reasons why I chose S1 over Cubase.
 
- Since v7, the look of Cubase has been a big turnoff for me. 
- Less bloat.  I'm still an old tape machine and mixer guy.  Don't want or need the other stuff.  Cubase has way more other stuff.
- A lot of the mixers/producers I follow on YouTube use Studio One.  
 
And yes, to a lesser extent, the upgrade cost was a factor. 

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:22:12 (permalink)
I used to have Cubase (VST 5.1-Cubase 3 or 2 - I forget).  It was unwieldy and had very cluttered interface.  But the thing that bugged me the most was the forum participants.  I was treated like an idiot for asking questions - usually about stability and locking up all the time.  And there was no customer support back then.  
 
The guys that were the architects behind Cubase wrote the code for Studio One.  I think they tried to get rid of bloat and make the DAW simpler.  
 
I bought Studio One 1 when it was released as I was having some issues with Sonar (don't recall), but found it to be immature.  I have upgraded the 1-2 and recently the 2-3 for Studio One.  It has come a long way.  
 
I know I am missing the serious MIDI editing capabilities of Sonar and Cubase.  I hope they develop more tools.  I have a couple of awesome vintage synths (memorymoog, waldorf wave and a decidedly non-MIDI Synthi AKS).  Plus I have the DSI OB6.  I want to be able to record SYSEX at some point.  
 
But I mainly use some drum program (AD2, SSD, Kontakt), some vintage keys (Arturia gets a lot of use) and track guitars, bass and vocals.  For that, SO3 is excellent.  

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:24:59 (permalink)
I bought S1 last Christmas with my "lifetime upgrade" money. It really boils down to personal workflow, so a thorough demo is advised in any case. Some things are intuitive, others require research, but there is a lot to play with (and more in some respects).

I cannot speak to Cubase though. I never considered them because I wasn't in a "must switch" mentality. Do not feel pressured to switch (SONAR still works), and go the route that suits you.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:29:24 (permalink)
I went with Studio one. I have become ARA dependent in Sonar. So, Studio One seemed the easier fit. cubase came in second, though I never really gave mixcraft or anyone else a chance.
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:32:58 (permalink)
For me it was ARA, the fact that a number of mixers I follow on YouTube use it and price.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:36:51 (permalink)
No ..... I make my living with this stuff - so that would not be a factor for me ...
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:42:23 (permalink)
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thanks...I'm leaning toward Cubase because of having to write to picture, and it seems a little better in handling video
I like the new sampler track too. But I hate the Ilicense USB thingy!


You might want to take a look at Mixcraft. I have not tested this feature, but it has integrated video editing, which I assume means you can display your video and have a multitrack audio recorder running on the same screen. It's affordable, too.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:44:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2017/11/28 19:50:33
Price should not enter into it. And I say that as a poor person.
 
Did you decide to marry your wife because she paid for dinner on your first date? Granted, that would have been a point in her favor. But hardly grounds for entering into a long-term relationship.
 
I think a lot of people are making rushed decisions at the moment, afraid of missing the boat if they don't immediately jump on crossgrade and Black Friday pricing. There really is no hurry. Deals will always be coming back around over the coming year.


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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:50:21 (permalink)
I chose S1 about 9 months to some degree out of attrition. It fit what i needed to do.  I needed a DAW that had a free version so that students could use and possibly purchase lowere cost version. Pro Tools free version is awful.  Tracktion was too odd to risk alientating kids with.   Price was a factor too.  Cubase is expensive, but most of them are at full price.  I simply never have been able to feel comfortable in Cubase.  Even if price were no object, I might still go with S1 since workflow fits nicely with what i do.  
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:53:54 (permalink)
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Did you decide to marry your wife because she paid for dinner on your first date?



As a matter of fact, yes.  And I've been paying for it ever since.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:55:15 (permalink)
It's worth watching the Migrating to Cubase hangout video if you have any doubts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKdr7YZCcgw

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 19:57:34 (permalink)
I've had S1 pro since ver 1. I actually won a copy at a PreSonus demonstration back in 2009, and have kept it upgraded.  For years I used it for cross Mac/PC compatibility with the house of worship stuff I do where both churches I worked with were all Mac shops.  But my main work was always on Sonar.
 
I have gone to Cubase, Studio One is very flashy, has some good workflow, but every time I use it I feel like I run into a brick wall.  As discussed on other threads, the sound in Studio One sounds very processed and digital.  It's like listing to a Line 6 spider amp (no offense to the Line-6 fans).  The stock plugins have a nice look as far as the UI, but the sound is so lacking.  The Sonitus stuff just blows it all away.
 
Cubase is a mature professional product and when I saw the price point I jumped on it.  Yes the UI is a little clunky and it feels like working with Office 2003, with all the top menu navigation.  However the channel strip in Cubase feels a lot like working with pro channel and it sound great.
 
Workflow Studio One definitely has an edge, but it's so far behind what Sonar had.  The lack of track templates alone slows down the work flow, and the drag and drop stuff is nice, but having a dedicated channel strip there and ready to use is invaluable.  The "channel strip" in S1 is very limited and is not on the channel by default like Sonar and Cubase, you have to insert it into the FX bin, it also sounds very digitized.
 
I will continue to use S1 for certain projects and collaborations but Cubase will be my main DAW.
 

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 20:06:43 (permalink)
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Did you decide to marry your wife because she paid for dinner on your first date? Granted, that would have been a point in her favor. But hardly grounds for entering into a long-term relationship.

Current wife is filing for divorce, and some people can not imagine themselves without a woman 
 
But the reality is that people tend to make the same mistakes again and again.
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 20:27:41 (permalink)
Don't have an elicenser (to try the demo), don't want to have to use one: from what I've read, it's near impossible to get your software working again without buying another elicenser and software license should it malfunction due to no fault of your own.
 
Liked the idea of getting a faderport controller, and heard they work really well with Studio One (being made from the same company)
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 20:29:54 (permalink)
Cubase support is appalling .. well what I have experienced with them it is  but that might be down to me only being a Elements owner ..   6 weeks I had to wait to get a new elicenser after Windows Update,  I imagine the Dongle version is much better but why should I have to fork out again for the privilege. 
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 20:36:57 (permalink)
Tried Cubase and thought it had a huge learning curve. So I choose to go with S1, mostly record audio anyway except that I use some VSTi for drums and keyboard occasionally.
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 21:11:20 (permalink)
I bought Studio One last year when they offered a 50% crossgrade price. I currently use Sonar but I have been slowly getting up to speed with Studio one. I plan to create all new projects in Studio One when not using external gear. Sonar works better with external gear.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 21:16:35 (permalink)
Answering the question from the other side. If I did mostly audio / tracking real instruments I would have gone for Studio One, the similarities to Sonar and the interface would have driven that decision, not the price. But 90% of what I do is MIDI so Cubase seems to be the best choice. The learning curve will be steeper for sure but there are a lot of features I want to get to grips with like the chord track which I hoped would have been added to Sonar at some stage.
 
Where price cam in was I may have gone for the Artist version of Cubase but the cross-grade made it a similar price to Pro, so no contest.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 21:55:45 (permalink)
I went with Presonus.  Money didn't figure into it since I'm planning on using this DAW from now on.  I was willing to spend whatever it took to get what I  needed.  The truth is, I don't need much.  I do some audio and some midi.  I don't do much midi editing so i didn't need tons of depth there.  I do some audio editing, but again, nothing esoteric.  I also use 3rd party plugins almost exclusively, so that wasn't an issue.  Thus, Presonus came out the winner.

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 23:20:29 (permalink)
I went with Studio One because:
- Cubase requires a dongle. This simply doesn't not work for me as I move between multiple computers at multiple locations and am not interested in carrying a dongle around in my pocket, losing it, forgetting it, breaking it, etc.. Studio One allows five simultaneous activations and requires no dongle. 
- I've played around a bit with the free version of Studio One the past couple of years so I have some passing familiarity with it. As far as I know, Cubase has no free version or demo so all I know about the feel of the interface is what I can see in YouTube videos. 
- Studio One has been getting a lot of buzz the past few years -- more so than most other DAWs from what I've seen. Also, Studio One was relatively recently built from the ground up so has a fresher foundation. This all makes me think Studio One has a brighter future in terms of growth of what the DAW offers.
 
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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 23:48:49 (permalink)
I've been using Studio One more and more over the past year and probably haven't even touched SONAR in several months.  It does what I need to and in my opinion does it very well. I also have Reaper and like it, but there are some things that Studio One does better and fits my workflow better.
 
I have no interest in Cubase, but if they had a downloadable demo, and didn't require a dongle, I would probably give it a try just to see. 
 
As for the handful of people who think that Studio One (or, really any other DAW except maybe Mixbus) sounds different/inferior to others, I'd like some of whatever you are smoking. 

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/28 23:52:40 (permalink)
Because of price? Yep, important part of my decision.
Studio One 3 Pro looks great and costs $125 (and no dongle).
 

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Re: Curious....are you guys that are choosing Studio One over Cubase.... 2017/11/29 00:23:08 (permalink)
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On-line authorization, forced included content, limited support for control surfaces. Doesn't that sound familiar?
 
Without me. And looking around, I do not see many choices. Fortunately, there is one...

I'm very curious, what are you going with? I'm still on the fence but am collecting options and, to an extent, opinions...

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