Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used!

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2010/06/21 12:01:15 (permalink)

Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used!

If you haven't had a chance to mess with this thing - GET IT!!!
 
I have just about every ITB compressor you can think of - Waves SSL, API, Chandler/EMI, UAD, Stillwell, etc... and "The Glue" absolutely blows me away.  For a 2-buss compressor this thing is stunning - blows the doors of the Waves SSL stuff and it's not even close.   It's modeled after the SSL 4000 but IMHO (and many others), absolutely blows away the Waves SSL.  I bought the Waves SSL bundle a while back and was just never impressed with the compressor - it's compression characterstics are nice but it kills the stereo image.  I demo'd the UAD Buss Comp (also modeled after the SSL buss comp) and it didn't blow me away so I never bought it.  I have now found the answer!
 
Soooooooooo nice folks and it's $99.  Trust me, I don't care how many compressors you have - this is one you want in your arsenal.
 
I'm in NO WAY affiliated with these guys - just a mega/super fan after running a few of my mixes through this thing.  Right now I use my Portico 5043 into this thing into my UAD Precision Limiter on my 2-buss and could not be happier with the results.
 
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There's a massive thread over on Gearslutz on this thing - rave reviews (and how I found about it):  http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-product-alert/363849-cytomic-announces-glue-bus-compressor-effect-plugin.html
 

 
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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/22 22:25:24 (permalink)
    62+ views and no one else has tried this? :)

    They have a trial download on the site if you are interested...

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/22 23:19:35 (permalink)
    There's a million page thread over at KVR.. The Dev is always refering to it as a mastering compressor for some reason; So many people use it for tracking (and especially drum busses ) The non-linearities are stricktly in the detector section and how it's applied to the gain reduction/transfer curve. ( the dev has also stated that he isn't doing any saturation or analog harmonic distortions ).

    I think the best feature is the range knob.. Only a few in the box comps have anything like it ; you can have super fast attacks and still not squash the **** out of things . There was also a thread at gearsluts where they tested for aliasing on lots of plugs and it ( the glue ) was very good at the 2:1 setting and , did this W/O any over sampling .


    Basically , you're right , it seems to be real nice .  I am able to get most of what I do with what I have , so , You're not helping me to contain my G.A.S  with this thread !!!! STOP IT ALREADY  Ken !!!

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/22 23:34:01 (permalink)
    62+ views and no one else has tried this? :)

    Too many Ozoners here. We've already got a great mastering compressor and it's hard to imagine anything being so much better as to justify unseating Ozone as our go-to maximizer. Nevertheless, I did give it a try a while back (out of curiosity after reading about it on GS) and you're absolutely right: it is excellent. Good enough to cough up 99 bucks for? Yes, and a bargain at that price. Good enough to replace Ozone? Mmm, for me, no.


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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/22 23:53:17 (permalink)
    Call yourself a gear whore ???  I think not !!!  The one who dies with the most comps wins !!! LOL  Of course your right bit ; If what you have ain't broken ....




    By the way , This bad boy is new on the scene recently also so , and is pretty dam amazing fer the $$$$$









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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/23 12:14:21 (permalink)
    True, it's good to have more than one compressor. I have a few of them and tend to use each one for different purposes. If I were to count how many times I've used any particular compressor in projects, the frontrunner would probably be the Kjearhus Classic Compressor. It gets used on almost every vocal track. And it's free - if you can still find it since the demise of Kjearhus.


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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/23 12:17:05 (permalink)
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    Call yourself a gear whore ???  I think not !!!  The one who dies with the most comps wins !!! LOL  Of course your right bit ; If what you have ain't broken ....




    By the way , This bad boy is new on the scene recently also so , and is pretty dam amazing fer the $$$$$









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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/23 18:16:00 (permalink)
    Tried it a while back  , while ninagree with you concerning the compressor yu mentionned : being better than waves is an easy thing , waves is just a joke (on the ssl bus) but it's way  under my duende ssl bus comp !!

    if you need a mastering grade comp : ssl duende X comp is a beast !!

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/26 13:21:50 (permalink)
    I like the Stillwell Bombardier over The Glue; probably just a matter of personal preference though.  They are both excellent.

    D.J. Espo is right about the KVR thread.  The Glue is kinda old news but the thread is always on the first or second page of the effects forum.  That many people can't be wrong.

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/26 13:51:41 (permalink)
    I dunno.  I have been checking out Glue a few times here and there and it hasn't really knocked me out yet.
    I have so many that are as good or better, maybe I'm just not easily excited anymore lol
     

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/26 14:03:35 (permalink)
    There seem to be some good plugs in this area currently and I'll definitely check this one out.

    I currently use the UAD Precision Bus Comp in this role when I want clean and lean and of all things Bootsy's freeware Density MkII for added fat there. 

    I'm not unhappy with either but it is a cool place in the chain to add some sweetness and I'll definitely give it a look see on that recommendation



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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2010/06/26 14:24:22 (permalink)
    Jonbouy


    There seem to be some good plugs in this area currently and I'll definitely check this one out.

    I currently use the UAD Precision Bus Comp in this role when I want clean and lean and of all things Bootsy's freeware Density MkII for added fat there. 

    I'm not unhappy with either but it is a cool place in the chain to add some sweetness and I'll definitely give it a look see on that recommendation

    I agree that Density is a nice quick hit for a compressor - and it has side-chaining.   It does the job often for that simple taming, and does seem to have a nice quality to it.

    Frankly for a freebie, it's quite impressive.



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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2012/10/03 09:19:32 (permalink)
    Late response to this thread....

    How would you compare this to ProChannels compressors? Or Ozone Alloy 2? 

    How do the Glue relate to Sonar X2s Console Emulators?

    Thanks!

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2012/10/03 10:48:41 (permalink)
    +1 ^^^^ Always was curious how Sonar's 4K Buss Comp fairs in comparison? I use the 4K a lot and like how it sounds with small amounts of GR on the mix buss. Is the difference significant? Thanks.
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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2012/10/03 20:15:14 (permalink)
     I have "the glue" it is nice but I don't agree that it is better than the UAD 4k( I don't have but tried the demo a few times). I much prefer my SSL duende but I like it much better than the X1 PC version. A great plug for the price.
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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2012/10/04 06:37:33 (permalink)
    post edited by backwoods - 2012/10/04 06:41:36

     
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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2012/10/04 07:23:18 (permalink)
    Im waiting on this dudes filter..   I have a lot of compressors...   I simply can not justify, "yet one more compressor."  But I'm totally interested in his filter...  but what do they call that?  not "speculation-ware."  Vapor-Ware?

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2012/10/05 08:06:46 (permalink)
    Yes this is one great sounding plug; a winner for sure. I guess describing the sound would be soft, fat,analogy type thing happening here. 

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2013/12/16 08:54:58 (permalink)
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    +1 ^^^^ Always was curious how Sonar's 4K Buss Comp fairs in comparison? I use the 4K a lot and like how it sounds with small amounts of GR on the mix buss. Is the difference significant? Thanks.

     
    If the OP is still out there, perhaps he can chime in with some thoughts in regards to the comparison. For me, however, overall I think the Glue fairs better "musically" than the PC4K bus comp, especially when sidechaining. To my ears, the PC4K seems slow and sloppy. The PC4K's release times are a little funky when compared to the Glue. It may be related to the threshold and gain-reduction differences between the two; I don't know for sure. All things being equal, the Glue delivers a bit more gain reduction at the same values when compared to the PC4K. This perhaps makes it sound a bit "tighter," more glue-like?
     
    At this time,I have only demo'ed it, but will buy it soon. I was thinking it would go on sale on Black Friday/Cyber Monday, but it did not. Just like Valhalla, Cytomic's plugins are fixed at their asking price. This is fine because they're both quality, no marketing hype, no-frills-just-work plugins. Most everyone can still buy into them and be happy.
     
    On a unrelated but still-related topic, let me refer to an interesting review I read about the various LA-2A emulations out there, including the CA-2A (http://www.attackmagazine.com/features/model-behaviour-uad-la-2a-emulations-hardware). Overall, a great read. But one item of importance is the reviewer's take on the CA-2A (see page 4). He notes that it is not a good emulation, despite what the marketing hype of Cakewalk otherwise suggests. I think the PC4K kind of fell into this trap as well. With the CA-2A, there is no emulated representation of the saturation curve, all of which is present in the real-deal-Holyfield LA-2A. So what was the point of the CA-2A? Why bother? In the review, actual audio snippets compare the various plugins. The CA-2A is on the "meh" side. Kind of lame, IMO. So a $99 plugin on sale for $49 during the first week of December? I was very interested and ready to toss down my $49 for the CA-2A, but I didn't after reading that review. So the moral of the story?  Not all pricing structures are created equal, and sometimes less is more.
     
    Back on topic...while I agree that Ozone may be the end-all-be-all final mastering suite, I think having the Glue, or another good comp on the master bus helps bring it all together before the maximizers, the enhancers, and the limiters.
     
    Also, I like bringing back old threads!
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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2013/12/16 09:38:07 (permalink)
    Hi
    I've used the Glue for quite a few years now and I still prefer this over others I have tried - only this week I had to reload and upgrade my UAD software, so actually took the time to compare the UAD 4k Bus compressor against the Glue - to be frank the UAD wasn't in the same ball park in my opinion.
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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2013/12/16 12:57:45 (permalink)
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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2013/12/16 15:54:59 (permalink)
    Me too Dave. 

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2013/12/16 20:48:33 (permalink)
    I joined the forum just a little time before all the speculation about his passing and was blown away by all the concern for him so much so that I stopped by his building on the Upper West Side to inquire about him (and was given the sad news by his super). Really seemed like a top guy from reading some of the posts about him - it's funny but seeing his distinctive avatar is usually the first sign I get that an old thread has been resurrected. 

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    I enjoy seeing his posts in a resurrected thread because it makes me feel like he will always be here with us in spirit.

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    Re:Cytomic "The Glue" VST - Best ITB Compressor I've Ever Used! 2013/12/17 07:14:16 (permalink)
    Yes you're right about the avatar
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