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Re: DUPLICATE command for SONAR 2018/08/07 04:04:38 (permalink)
Reason10 nailed it quite perfectly with just Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (no need for an extra Ctrl+D even).
 
Another quick way would be to hold a key and drag the right edge of a clip or selection of clips (or time selection with clips on multiple tracks?)... kind of pattern tool for the track view.
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Re: DUPLICATE command for SONAR 2018/08/07 09:38:40 (permalink)
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Reason10 nailed it quite perfectly with just Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (no need for an extra Ctrl+D even).
 
Another quick way would be to hold a key and drag the right edge of a clip or selection of clips (or time selection with clips on multiple tracks?)... kind of pattern tool for the track view.


No! Duplicate is not Copy+Paste, or CTL+drag. It is one of those workflow things that are not obvious until you try for yourself. You create a bar, select it, hit CTL+D, create a variation in the copy. Select both, duplicate, you now have a four bar phrase, create variation in the last bar. Select, duplicate again, create a fill in the last bar, you have an eight bar section. Can you do it with Copy and Paste? Sure, but this is faster and even simpler.
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Re: DUPLICATE command for SONAR 2018/08/07 10:21:30 (permalink)
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I think clip duplication would be useful personally. We already have track duplication via the newish add track button so I don't see anything wrong with extending that behavior to clips. The feature would obviously have to be properly designed to handle properties on how to duplicate (back to back, use snap etc..) 



Good to have you onboard, idea-wise, Noel! :D
 
Yes, I am not very good at Live, so I'm not sure exactly how Live duplicates with regards to snap. It kind of seems to always do "what you expect": duplicating the selected bar one bar forward at the press of CTRL+D. I haven't tried multiple bars...
 
By the way - good work with the add track button and the track duplication buttons, they are great for workflow! :)
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Re: DUPLICATE command for SONAR 2018/08/07 12:59:13 (permalink)
When ever I want to duplicate a clip I just hold CNTRL and drag the clip to its new space.

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Re: DUPLICATE command for SONAR 2018/08/08 00:30:06 (permalink)
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Reason10 nailed it quite perfectly with just Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (no need for an extra Ctrl+D even).
 
Another quick way would be to hold a key and drag the right edge of a clip or selection of clips (or time selection with clips on multiple tracks?)... kind of pattern tool for the track view.


No! Duplicate is not Copy+Paste, or CTL+drag. It is one of those workflow things that are not obvious until you try for yourself. You create a bar, select it, hit CTL+D, create a variation in the copy. Select both, duplicate, you now have a four bar phrase, create variation in the last bar. Select, duplicate again, create a fill in the last bar, you have an eight bar section. Can you do it with Copy and Paste? Sure, but this is faster and even simpler.

Sorry Jose, but did you actually check the Reason way I was talking about? I said they managed to implement the duplicate function with just copy/paste, how clever is that... go check yourself
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Re: DUPLICATE command for SONAR 2018/08/08 00:42:52 (permalink)
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I think clip duplication would be useful personally. We already have track duplication via the newish add track button so I don't see anything wrong with extending that behavior to clips. The feature would obviously have to be properly designed to handle properties on how to duplicate (back to back, use snap etc..) 



Good to have you onboard, idea-wise, Noel! :D
 
Yes, I am not very good at Live, so I'm not sure exactly how Live duplicates with regards to snap. It kind of seems to always do "what you expect": duplicating the selected bar one bar forward at the press of CTRL+D. I haven't tried multiple bars...
 
By the way - good work with the add track button and the track duplication buttons, they are great for workflow! :)


Yes, how duplicate should work in regard to snap is a valid question. In electronic music (for example in Live) you're creating clips perfectly aligned to bars, duplication is simple. I do no electronic music, when I'm recording midi, I never quantize, my clips are always starting some ticks after or before the bar point, I'm heavily dependant on the Snap By functionality.
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