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Rain Cliff Burton. Imagine And Justice for All, only, WITH bass... Good call.
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2012/07/17 19:38:03
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Paul McCartney. He was a good songwriter and walrus. Keef... oh wait, he just looks dead. (I see he was already mentioned, laff). Janis Joplin, I think she would have just gotten better and better. I wonder what more great music we would have from Hank Williams and Patsy Cline. Robert Johnson... dead at 27. Incredible legacy. Gram Parsons. ..and of course Duane Allman and Berry Oakley. J
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2012/07/17 19:44:15
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jbow Paul McCartney. He was a good songwriter and walrus. J Um, didn't Sir Paul just play a gig last night with Bruce Springsteen? (I only heard because, apparently, they pulled the power plug promptly at 10:30pm due to curfews...)
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2012/07/17 19:57:58
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2012/07/17 20:03:45
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Yeah but that was way back then - Paul WAS dead. He no longer is.
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2012/07/17 20:07:12
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He came back as "Sir Paul"... sort of like Gandalf the Grey came back as Gandalf the White J
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2012/07/17 20:11:17
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That's what those MBE medals do to you when you don't send them back in protest. ;)
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2012/07/17 20:27:45
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jamesg1213 John Martyn. Still hard to believe that there won't be any more new music from the big man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBPTuAl2Qyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-YrJbX4Wrs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12si7A9UyGw A huge +1 Gerry Rafferty too, both huge influences on me early on, on account of them both being based in my home town at the time. I still miss this guy the most, really generous and encouraging to work with, he'd muck in with anyone including me, one of the best instinctive musicians I've ever known and much loved by anybody that had any contact with him at all. A truly class act that touched me deeply. http://www.kennycraddock.com/ I still cant watch this with him on piano without a tear welling up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piv3tauJo2M The musical legacy and family tree of musicians that those three alone have spawned, been involved with and influenced is far more immense that anything that the British music industry could ever have brought about. True giants of the British music scene yet probably not among the best known but so highly acclaimed and esteemed by anyone that's ever heard them. A huge legacy, RIP!
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2012/07/17 21:01:58
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I'll tell ya where all these guys would be if they were still alive today. Scratchin at the coffin like a wildcat! Randy
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2012/07/17 21:05:14
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Re:Dead Musicians - What would they be doing now if still alive? Who do you miss?
2012/07/17 21:53:13
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Rain Yeah but that was way back then - Paul WAS dead. He no longer is. The irony will be that once Ringo goes, Paul will be the sole surviving Beatle; the one who supposedly blew his mind out in a car turns out to be last one alive.
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I will take the diametrically opposite view and say that most, if not all of them, would be either irrelevant or marginalized. There would be exceptions, of course, but most would be trapped inside their time windows as "clues to the new direction" and would quickly find themselves superseded by younger artists...who, in like manner, would become footnotes in musical history as time progressed. Or not.
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yorolpal I will take the diametrically opposite view and say that most, if not all of them, would be either irrelevant or marginalized. There would be exceptions, of course, but most would be trapped inside their time windows as "clues to the new direction" and would quickly find themselves superseded by younger artists...who, in like manner, would become footnotes in musical history as time progressed. Or not. I like way you think.
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2012/07/18 02:59:59
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James Honeyman-Scott and Pete Farndon from the Pretenders, both very talented, likewise John Glascock, Jethro Tull bassist. He and Barrie Barlow were a wonderful rhythm section.
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2012/07/18 06:17:32
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yorolpal I will take the diametrically opposite view and say that most, if not all of them, would be either irrelevant or marginalized. There would be exceptions, of course, but most would be trapped inside their time windows as "clues to the new direction" and would quickly find themselves superseded by younger artists...who, in like manner, would become footnotes in musical history as time progressed. Or not. That is exactly right, which is why 'true success' is not down the amount of contracts you get to sign, the boatloads of product you can shift, the amount of adulation you can garner, but simply the amount of fulfilment you can get out of the job you do. None of that transcribes on to any headstone, so no point worrying that the big break is just around the next corner, it ain't, it's right here, right now where the best memories will come from further down the line. As Ian Hunter once liked to say "You ain't the nazz, you're just a buzz, some kind of temporary" So to paraphrase our 'ol pal, rock on, droogies, rock on... I can't help missing some of 'em though, which was the second part of Maurice's question.
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yorolpal I will take the diametrically opposite view and say that most, if not all of them, would be either irrelevant or marginalized. There would be exceptions, of course, but most would be trapped inside their time windows as "clues to the new direction" and would quickly find themselves superseded by younger artists...who, in like manner, would become footnotes in musical history as time progressed. Or not. Apart from Zappa
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Marc Bolan, Dusty Springfield, Gary Thain (Uriah Heep), Paul Kossoff
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2012/07/18 06:53:29
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+ umpteen for Robert Johnson
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2012/07/18 08:19:22
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Bristol_Jonesey Paul Kossoff Big +1 on that.
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Re:Dead Musicians - What would they be doing now if still alive? Who do you miss?
2012/07/18 10:33:21
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yorolpal I will take the diametrically opposite view and say that most, if not all of them, would be either irrelevant or marginalized. There would be exceptions, of course, but most would be trapped inside their time windows as "clues to the new direction" and would quickly find themselves superseded by younger artists...who, in like manner, would become footnotes in musical history as time progressed. Or not. You know olpal, when I first started reading this thread, my comment was initially the same as yours. Then I got to thinking a bit about the hero's we still have left with us today. Most of them are still larger than life and can sell out arenas, ya know? Clapton, Page, Plant, Stones, The Who, and heck, even Van Halen has done well with their recent tour in spite of what they have put fans through for the past 10 years. So in my opinion, the hero's we all know and love would always have a place at the top of the ladder due to defining something original or even something that was just mind-blowingly great....don't ya think? Sir Paul still does well, you know Ringo still packs them in....even the ones that have had really severe drug or alcohol additictions seem to still be going strong even if their mind and bodies may not be what they used to be. Kiss, Ozzy, Wayne Newton, Pat Boone, Tom Jones...some of these people, others would argue as being worth a mention. I'd agree as well in certain situations...however, they stood the test of time and may not have been innovators...though some clearly were in other aspects. So I definitely think the stars that have left us would still have something going on. The talent that surpasses them will always be in the picture. The key thing in MY mind is...it's easy to take something that someone has created and make it better...but could the person making it better create it? As long as someone is/was an innovator or some sort of dominating force for something, I believe they will always hold a little more clout. Kinda like Eddie Van Halen getting the credit for tapping when each and every one of us can name players that did it before him. I remember Frank Marino doing it long before EVH. But, back in those days, it was a no no. Time passed and Ed put a different spin on it...next thing you know, it was accepted and he's the creator. :) Anyway, I would love to hear where Hendrix, Robert Johnson, SRV, Buddy Holly, Lennon, Segovia, Randy Rhoads, Skynyrd with Ronnie and the others they lost, and Layne Staley who sang with Alice in Chains would be up to today. Especially with the new technology we have today. :) -Danny
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2012/07/18 10:53:43
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space_cowboyHendrix - setting the stage for the 22 century. He would be 70 this year. I really think that if he had been able to get away from the "blues" and "krap" society that he would have done some magnificent things. I've always said that by the time you hear Guru Guru's forst 3 albums, that you would be listening to the free form Jimi that we would ahve enjoyed listening, with the issue being that the radio controls in America would not like it, as there would be no hits. In the 90's I think he would probably have taught half those metal heads that they are just kids playing scales very loud! And they still don't know what music is! space_cowboy ...John Lennon - not sure what he would be doing, but I would be listening. 1/2 of double fantasy was awesome. 1/2 of it was Yoko. In the world of Venn Diagrams, those two did not overlap. I think that John would have written /// Double Fantasy Pt 2 ... and tlel us how 30 years later he's still in love and would still pose naked for us to believe him! All in all, I think that he would have helped Yoko get better with her screeches and screams and maybe actually do an album of poetry and something that would make better sense for us. She's still stuck in the Damo Suzuki time warp land ... and not sounding very good, this time around. The magic belongs to the time and place, not the people ... and sometimes that is a side of it all that is hard for us to accept. We "join" the time and place, and add to it, but without the "time", what we did/do is not important and no one would notice it. What's John going to do? Stay in bed to ask the Taliban to stop? Or Iran? ... and how many people would ignore him and make jokes about some old goon out there that is not a strong man anymore! space_cowboy ...Lowell George - Little Feat could have kept recording well into the 90s. Hard to fathom, but ... yeah ... there's a boy that should stay off drugs! Not sure, but I can not see him doing a lot more than what he was doing with Little Feat at the time. space_cowboy ... Frank Zappa - I cannot even begin to imagine where he would be now. I think that about the 2000 he would have given up the guitar altogether and told folks that he was tired of the rock idol thing, and if people were not going to take his music seriously, then he would never play his guitar again. The other part, would be that he would have gotten his estate in order, because Gail and that other goon, do not really know what to do with all that music, and how to even name it or take care of it, and since a lot of it is instrumental and stuff that was done during warmups for various shows, a lot of things go together and there is no rhyme, reason, or any idea if there is logic other than just ... warm up ... and having fun while at it. I, sadly, look at Gail as a wife, not a trust keeper, as I am not sure that she has a reasonable understanding of the music or what it all is in terms of a life of an artist ... she's only in love with that rock star ... and married to him ... I don't think she has any idea what "music" is or what Frank meant when he said "serious music". ... and I could sometimes say the same thing here when listening to some of the stuff!
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Bristol_Jonesey Randy Rhoads, Jim Morrison, Syd Barrett, there's far too many to list really I think that Jim would have quit the music business and gone back to film. He probably would make that Lars guy look like an idiot with a camera in his hand, since Jim had better stories to tell and illustrate. You can easily turn LA Woman, The End, The Soft Parade, When the Music is Over ... into movies ... and tell a nice story! It might be hard for folks to take, but then again, we have a hard time with Lars, and Gaspar Noe and I think that Jim would have made those two look a bit stupid and not important! Syd Barrett, is tougher, although I sometimes think that he would be a really good representative for the born again christian movement in England ... but that might sound a bit sordid, just like his humor! ... some people ... have stood ... and cheered ... something they did not understand! Need you say or ask for more?
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Rain JOHN BONHAM. :s Wow, that was loud, even just mentioning his name. Yeah ... I miss Bonzo ... and I really think that Zep did the right thing by stopping when he left us ... and making the point that what they did was as much him, as anyone else. That alone, makes the earlier work and bootlegs by that band sound even better, specially when Jimmy messed up the remake of some bootlegs real bad! Likewise, I really think that Moonie would have been a wonderful person and personality to have around, were it not for his competitions with Oliver Reed to see who could drink more and fall over faster, and leave the girl waiting for some satisfaction in an island!
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Glyn Barnes Sandy Denny Completly agreed. Was just going to post the same She made me thnk of Kisrty MacCall The the way Kirsty died made me think of the more recent death of Esbjorn Svenson and how sad I was to here that. His trio were still producing more and more interesting work, such a shame, young family too This thread is depressing me
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jamesg1213 James Honeyman-Scott and Pete Farndon from the Pretenders, both very talented, likewise John Glascock, Jethro Tull bassist. He and Barrie Barlow were a wonderful rhythm section. John G got his chops in "Carmen", with 3 albums and it was their display that got Ian interested in John which promptly brought down the Carmen band ... which just happened to also lose its producer when John left. Another one that went too soon ... Duncan Browne. His work on the solo albums, The Wild Places and his next album, was the primer for what eventually became the sound for "Dire Straits" and it was wonderful music and well defined and played ... and someone should check out that bass player and drummer sometime! ... and you will know why the stuff is so good and well done!
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MakeShift SRV Too much metal-urgy around here ... but I agree! Folks that can fly on the guitar freely and not have to copy everyone else, are rare, and Stevie was very fine indeed! There was also a nice note on one of the Bass Player magazines when the bass player said that they accidentally had the bass tuned half a note down ... and son of a gun ... Stevie did not miss a note and it became a famous piece of theirs ... yours for the finding! That's guts ... and you can let all these DAW'ists for have a run for playing music!
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Moshkiae John G got his chops in "Carmen" You know, I just cannot remember that, no matter how many times you tell me.
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