MorganT
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Dead space at end
When I mix down all my tracks and export to a WAV file, I end up with a lot of dead space at the end of all the audio -- which I assume represents the measures showing up in the time ruler beyond where all my clips / envelopes end. How do I remove all of this before creating the WAV file?
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/01 17:27:17
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MorganT
When I mix down all my tracks and export to a WAV file, I end up with a lot of dead space at the end of all the audio -- which I assume represents the measures showing up in the time ruler beyond where all my clips / envelopes end. How do I remove all of this before creating the WAV file?
If you use your mouse to highlight the bar numbers that run along the top of the sequencer you can choose the start and end points of the audio that will be exported. If you end the highlighting at the correct place it doesn't matter what follows on from that point in the sequencer as it isn't included. Make sure the reverbs and delays have finished (if used) as nothing sounds more cr@p than a track that ends prior to complete silence (well there are things that sound more cr@p but that doesn't matter right now). Grum.
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/01 20:51:55
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I sometimes end up with dead space in the waves... generally only a few seconds and also at the beginning since I always start my songs on measure 3 beat 1.
I export the audio as a wave and use an audio editor to trim the file to eliminate the silence.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/01 21:16:16
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Use the time ruler to select the region you want to export. The way I do this normally is:
CTRL-A to select the entire project.
Now drag on the time ruler to select the area between the start and finish point of your project.
Export
Alternatively if you need to do this often for the same project a tip is to use project markers. Add markers delineating the start and the end of the project. Now when you are ready to export:
- press ctrl-A to select all data in the prokect
- open the markers view and click on the first marker, then shift click the second marker. This will select all the data in your project between the two markers.
- Now export
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/01 21:18:57
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i always trim my tracks once i've mixed down to a .wav file. i then import the stereo track back into sonar for mastering and it is then i trim the ends of my .wav. i find this way safer and easier then trying to trim 16 to 30 some tracks.
if you decide to trim while still editing the tracks becareful if you have clips because if you have all the tracks selected to trim the ends you might be adjusting all of your clips ends as well.
a simple way of doing it this way would be bounce to clips and that will combine all of your individual clips per track so that you'll have one clip on each track. then it would be safe to select all and adjust the ends.
good luck bro!
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MorganT
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/03 20:33:56
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Thanks to all for answers!
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/03 21:06:46
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No one seems to have mentioned why you have this "dead space".
It's likely that there is an event of some sorts way down in the time line.
Perhaps an envelope.
If you look in the MIDI event editor it will show up there. if nothing then its an audio event or an envelope.
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/03 22:13:54
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
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Use the time ruler to select the region you want to export. The way I do this normally is:
CTRL-A to select the entire project.
Now drag on the time ruler to select the area between the start and finish point of your project.
Export
Alternatively if you need to do this often for the same project a tip is to use project markers. Add markers delineating the start and the end of the project. Now when you are ready to export:
- press ctrl-A to select all data in the prokect
- open the markers view and click on the first marker, then shift click the second marker. This will select all the data in your project between the two markers.
- Now export
+1 I always use markers to set out my projects. The come in very handy for all sorts of things, not least being time selection for export. Try adding markers and use the markers view, I use them for navigating quickly around projects too. They can save you a ton of time, and frustration. I typically mark start, verses, chorus, breaks, and end of every project, and use the markers view to jump around. Cheers - Cliff
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MorganT
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/05 22:24:44
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To Mudgel -- I was wondering why there was extra space, good suggestions.
Cliffr - can you label the markers or just post markers?
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Re:Dead space at end
2011/10/06 13:19:27
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Dumb question -- you label 'em when you create 'em. Should have tried it before I asked! THANKS!
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Re:Dead space at end
2015/06/27 21:40:27
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Hey guys. this dead air was a problem i always had until someone told me to use markers. The advice i was given that the last marker will automatically tell the software that this is where the song ends. I've inserted markers but i still have this dead air. One of the tips above was to highlight the song length using the time ruler. I've done this but when i click on File > Export I get an error saying "The specified selection does not contain any audio data". Should the last marker till the song to stop playing? And if not, is there a way around that error i'm getting about the specified area not containing any audio data. Thanks guys
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Re:Dead space at end
2015/06/27 21:55:57
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Markers by themselves do not designate end of song. SONAR exports until there is no more data unless a time-based selection is made. First select the tracks to export, then select the area between the markers to export. Make sure when exporting audio based on MIDI data the appropriate audio or instrument tracks are part of the selection too or you will receive the "The specified selection does not contain any audio data" error.
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Re:Dead space at end
2015/06/28 05:22:32
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There is a menu item to place and end of project instruction. It's not a marker per se.
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Re:Dead space at end
2015/06/28 11:11:12
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Thanks for the replies guys. I'll try both suggestions. I'll do a search for that "end of project" menu item.
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