Deals don't go here anymore

As part of the forum reorganization, there is now a separate Deals forum for sales and group buys. That'll be a nice improvement, I think. 
 
Product announcements are still OK here, even if they happen to mention an introductory price.
 
So when the long-awaited Talent plugin shows up, that would definitely rate a post to the Software forum. Later, after everybody's figured out that it doesn't work, and it goes on sale at a 90% discount, that sale announcement would belong in the Deals forum. 
 
Hope that helps.

so essentially Larry just got his own group on the forum?  LOL.
 
kinda confusing.
 
so in Software "I just saw XXX on sale, anybody use it?" is okay?
so in Deals "XXX on sale."
 
summin' like that?

MachineClaw

kinda confusing.
 

Yep.

Me too, but think it goes beyond this.
 
Kind of like a wet blanket thrown on this forum with all the new levels of control and the threats of banishment. Sales must be hurting.
 
True, things got a bit out of hand on occasion myself included, but we mostly worked our differences out and the vibe was progressive and constructive overall. Hi energy and a tip from Larry on a no brainer deal. Freedom to speak, and the collective kept us in line if we strayed too far from that which was appropriate.
 
Now a new manifesto and an army of "moderators" ready to delete our concerns if it does not fit the party line. We got to hire a lawyer to micromanage what to post.
 
Sad deterioration. Would not be surprised if my rant is blacked out for complaining.
 
Other side of the reality. This is Cake's forum. They set the rules. I'm only a guest. Suck it up or go elsewhere.
 
Pissed off but maybe I'm wrong over dramatizing this.
 
John

Must admit, I don't post on KVR threads because of its moderation. One rule for old hands and another for newbies. Mind you, most forums are like that. I do buy and sell there though.

Don't over-think it, guys. The forum changes resulted from user suggestions. From us. 
 
The Cakewalk folks have more pressing things to do than micro-manage a forum. That's why they asked for our help, and we volunteered.
 
We (meaning the so-called "forum hosts") are NOT moderators. We can't ban you and I, for one, would have absolutely no desire to do so anyway. Now, Wookie, bapu and Karyn, I can't speak for. But at least one of them, who shall remain unnamed, has promised not to rip anyone's arms out.
 
The Software forum is my hangout. I lobbied to keep it just the way it was, and aside from splitting out sale announcements into a separate sub-forum, it will. Promise.

mike_mccue

bitflipper
We can't ban you

Actually Bit, you can ban someone. It says so right in the new rules. Considering that at least one of the new "hosts" has repeatedly suggested that I should be banned... well, it is just sort of funny. :-) 

Clarification.  We can temporarily deny access.  More like a cooling off, come back in a day, sorta thing.  We would only ever do that as a last resort when all other discussions have failed and the user persists in the activity that brought him/her to our attention in the first place.   Only the Bakers can perma-ban a user.
Obvious spammers we would deny access without a second thought, but we still have to inform the Bakers to make a ban permanent.
 

If you go to a high class restaurant you expect to be waited on hand and foot.  Go to a fast food chain and you're expected to put your own rubbish in the bins provided, but there are always some that don't and staff members clean up after them.
There is also the drunk that wanders in occasionally and starts abusing the customers for no apparent reason that security has to deal with.
 
Cakewalk have basically set on a group of cleaners to keep things tidy and given them a hall monitor badge to deal with the very occasional problems we get.
 
I'm currently at work, I should be printing out pay slips, but I've spent my time today in several threads trying to explain that we're not here to police every post and typo.  We're cleaners. 

meh, do the switch and let's see how it goes

Hi everyone,
 
Just got my forum account linked. Good to see the new forum layout.. and especially glad that all the spams are gone. Upgraded my monitor to a 39" Samsung LED TV recently which I'm liking it very much, great for reading the forum near or far! ..opps should post that under the Hardware section right..? :) 
 
Cheers.

wizard71
So... full price software here reduced price software there. Seems to me like they belong in the same place. New software & Old software. When does it become a deal? Not sure the differentiation makes any real sense with its current labelling. I can see this not working very well, people will just end up posting in either one for either reason. I like the rest of the changes though.

If it's such an issue they could easily re-lable 'Deals' to  'Deals+ New products/ announcements'

Thanks Bit.  Did not notice this change.  Just means two places to check for info about software now.

Grem,
 
Also agree that Mike put it where it needed to be put. About the only analysis that makes any risk/benefit sense to me currently.
 
Couple nights, and I haven't woken up in cold sweats, loss of bowel and bladder control over the fear that Bit will avange CW by deleteing my every other post. That's not an issue and love Bit as my brother. Karyn is now a new public figure trying to merge in as just one of the guys. Psychological prep was orchestrated and set up long before this roll out to get the "hosts" accepted as generic, under the radar forumites with "cleanup" authority. Cool... Roll on... May be needed in extreme cases and almost trust their judgement.
 
Mike's point in that ideas and revelations will less "cross polinate" by segregating everything over multuiple politically correct outposts is real. Like Mike said, we are not reference libraries. A lot of the former magic of this forum was in the collision of less restrained call response interactions that led to evaluating a utility and need for a plugin that was not realized before.
 
Looking strictly at the numbers, there are only a couple or so that are not in bliss over the new restrictions, limitations. And there are valid opinions maybe way more accurate than my reactive diatribe, primitive understanding of what is going on.
 
Wonder if this is because there are others who are not as ecstatic but haven't voiced objection.
 
In case the numbers are real, have learned over time that if there are one of me to 10 of another opinion, it's likely I've screwed up somewhere in my understanding. Will try to keep an open mind otherwise.
 
John
 
 

Makes total sense to me. Software discussion in one- good eq to use for this or that etc, review of certain compressor, latency of brick wall limiters, algorithm vs convo reverb, good place to get convo IRS etc.

And in the other: cc's software discount thread with numerous threatening references to ikmultimedia.

bitflipper
 
Don't over-think it, guys. The forum changes resulted from user suggestions. From us. 
 

Don't remember anyone asking us how we would like these changes.
 
Not over thinking it. Just asking questions.