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2012/09/14 11:49:35 (permalink)

Dear Mr Sonar

For the MILLIONTH TIME, please kindly fix the Sonar crashing and releasing the process issue that is plaguing my musical existence.

You are driving me insane.

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 11:59:14 (permalink)
    What we need is a Quick Fix for this type of error.

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 12:30:00 (permalink)
    What are you guys talking about?


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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 12:59:13 (permalink)
    this....


    Problem Event Name: BEX64
      Application Name: SONARPDR.exe
      Application Version: 18.1.5.535
      Application Timestamp: 4f4d5612
      Fault Module Name: StackHash_5cbc
      Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
      Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
      Exception Offset: 0000000000001300
      Exception Code: c0000005
      Exception Data: 0000000000000008
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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:01:09 (permalink)
    then not being able to load Sonar for 20 mins.

    again

    and

    again

    and again

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:01:56 (permalink)
    Never seen it.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:03:35 (permalink)
    could be driver related midi or audio
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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:08:10 (permalink)
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    could be driver related midi or audio


    $20 says a midi driver issue.

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:10:50 (permalink)
    Nope, none of the above (I have started a few threads already on this btw)

    I am just ranting as I have lost total creativity AGAIN today.

    Lots of people get Sonar APP crashes and then Sonar wont release the process no matter what you do, its a total creative killer.

    TBH I am fecking sick to the back teeth of seeing new features in X1 and X2 and not enough work going on under the hood ESPECIALLY on a 64 bit platform. I have been using Cakewalk for about 15 years and I have to say since X1 I have had nothing but NIGHTMARES in crashes that dont have a trend or add up and I'm bloody sick of it.....

    I love all the features and interface changes etc etc but whats the point of it all when it crashes randomly all the time?

    Please dont make me defect to a Mac and the dreaded PT...Please.........

    Sorry for the rant guys.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:11:53 (permalink)
    you owe me 20 bucks!
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    rabeach


    could be driver related midi or audio


    $20 says a midi driver issue.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:15:40 (permalink)
    I've had this a few times...

    The quickest solution is

    "Ctrl + Alt + Del"

    Go to "processes"  and END "SonarPDR.exe"

    You can then reload Sonar right away,...

    For some reason, when Sonar "dumps" it doesn't leave memory...





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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:19:04 (permalink)
    nope. Doesnt work. Nor do the 3rd party "kill process apps". Nor does logging off and back on again. NOTHING works asides from a long wait or a reboot and a full force of creativity rendered useless.
    cclarry


    I've had this a few times...

    The quickest solution is

    "Ctrl + Alt + Del"

    Go to "processes"  and END "SonarPDR.exe"

    You can then reload Sonar right away,...

    For some reason, when Sonar "dumps" it doesn't leave memory...



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:21:31 (permalink)
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    Nope, none of the above (I have started a few threads already on this btw)

    I am just ranting as I have lost total creativity AGAIN today.

    Lots of people get Sonar APP crashes and then Sonar wont release the process no matter what you do, its a total creative killer.

    TBH I am fecking sick to the back teeth of seeing new features in X1 and X2 and not enough work going on under the hood ESPECIALLY on a 64 bit platform. I have been using Cakewalk for about 15 years and I have to say since X1 I have had nothing but NIGHTMARES in crashes that dont have a trend or add up and I'm bloody sick of it.....

    I love all the features and interface changes etc etc but whats the point of it all when it crashes randomly all the time?

    Please dont make me defect to a Mac and the dreaded PT...Please.........

    Sorry for the rant guys.

    this is out of my field of expertise but probably within bitflipper's
    a quick google search resulted in
     
     
    The StackHash error happens any time DEP is found that there is an issue with the program run. The error is related to Data Execution Prevention. Here’s how 99 percent of Vista and Win7 users can fix a StackHash failure:
      Click the run button and open the Control Panel
    1. Browse to the section of System Maintenance then to the System
    2. At the left side, select Advanced System Settings link
    3. In the System Properties Window the top section is named as Performance with the Settings button. Click this button.
    4. Choose the Data Execution Prevention tab.
    5. Select the option which reads Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select.
    6. Use the Browse button to locate the executable file for the application you were trying to start when you received the StackHash error, and click Open to add it to your exceptions list.
    7. Click Apply or OK to commit your changes.
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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:24:10 (permalink)
    alas, that doesnt work either :(
    rabeach


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    Nope, none of the above (I have started a few threads already on this btw)

    I am just ranting as I have lost total creativity AGAIN today.

    Lots of people get Sonar APP crashes and then Sonar wont release the process no matter what you do, its a total creative killer.

    TBH I am fecking sick to the back teeth of seeing new features in X1 and X2 and not enough work going on under the hood ESPECIALLY on a 64 bit platform. I have been using Cakewalk for about 15 years and I have to say since X1 I have had nothing but NIGHTMARES in crashes that dont have a trend or add up and I'm bloody sick of it.....

    I love all the features and interface changes etc etc but whats the point of it all when it crashes randomly all the time?

    Please dont make me defect to a Mac and the dreaded PT...Please.........

    Sorry for the rant guys.

    this is out of my field of expertise but probably within bitflipper's
    a quick google search resulted in
     
     
    The StackHash error happens any time DEP is found that there is an issue with the program run. The error is related to Data Execution Prevention. Here’s how 99 percent of Vista and Win7 users can fix a StackHash failure:
      Click the run button and open the Control Panel
    1. Browse to the section of System Maintenance then to the System
    2. At the left side, select Advanced System Settings link
    3. In the System Properties Window the top section is named as Performance with the Settings button. Click this button.
    4. Choose the Data Execution Prevention tab.
    5. Select the option which reads Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select.
    6. Use the Browse button to locate the executable file for the application you were trying to start when you received the StackHash error, and click Open to add it to your exceptions list.
    7. Click Apply or OK to commit your changes.




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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:25:03 (permalink)
    I'll bet that your problem is due to your Delta 1010 driver. Sonar X1 on its own is not that crash happy. The symptom of not being able to close down X1 is associated with M Audio drivers. Has been for a long time.

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:25:59 (permalink)
    i have zero evidence this will work, just a spidy-sense: (similar to the software-based DEP controls) if your bios supports hardware-based DEP, try disabling it. if it's already disabled, try enabling it.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:26:27 (permalink)
    A million times in 52 posts?????

    That's going some, even for Bapu.

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:27:12 (permalink)
    besides you cant set DEP for 64 bit exe's

    :(

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:28:17 (permalink)
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    nope. Doesnt work. Nor do the 3rd party "kill process apps". Nor does logging off and back on again. NOTHING works asides from a long wait or a reboot and a full force of creativity rendered useless.
    cclarry


    I've had this a few times...

    The quickest solution is

    "Ctrl + Alt + Del"

    Go to "processes"  and END "SonarPDR.exe"

    You can then reload Sonar right away,...

    For some reason, when Sonar "dumps" it doesn't leave memory...


    That's a new one for me..never had it happen where I couldn't kill it and just re-load...


    Maybe rabeach's answer will work...don't know what the ramifications of that fix would be...
    but, never hurts to try...


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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:28:58 (permalink)
    nope, tried an Emu card as well....
    John


    I'll bet that your problem is due to your Delta 1010 driver. Sonar X1 on its own is not that crash happy. The symptom of not being able to close down X1 is associated with M Audio drivers. Has been for a long time.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:42:03 (permalink)
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    besides you cant set DEP for 64 bit exe's

    :(


     it could be your memory is bad I would test it
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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:45:05 (permalink)
    markyzno


    nope, tried an Emu card as well....
    John


    I'll bet that your problem is due to your Delta 1010 driver. Sonar X1 on its own is not that crash happy. The symptom of not being able to close down X1 is associated with M Audio drivers. Has been for a long time.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:47:12 (permalink)
    tested.Fine. Its ONLY Sonar that gives my system any kind crud. Its not hardware. Its Sonar.
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    markyzno


    besides you cant set DEP for 64 bit exe's

    :(


     it could be your memory is bad I would test it



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:52:28 (permalink)
    I think my tickets to Cakewalk support make up my balance.
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    A million times in 52 posts?????

    That's going some, even for Bapu.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 13:53:56 (permalink)
    Have you retried restarting your soundcard?  This is the only thing that works for me (besides a full reboot as you had stated)


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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 15:14:22 (permalink)
    markyzno


    tested.Fine. Its ONLY Sonar that gives my system any kind crud. Its not hardware. Its Sonar.
    OK, I just loaded SONAR on my system.


    No crashes.


    It's *not* SONAR, I can tell you that.



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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 15:17:13 (permalink)
    It's a known driver issue. M-audio and E-MU are two offenders.

    My main system does it as I suffer with a MIDISport, which is the offender on my system. My laptop doesn't do it because I don't have those drivers on it.

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 15:27:11 (permalink)
    Has anyone ever met "MR Sonar"? I wonder.....

    To the OP, Its A 3rd party Driver Issue.

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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 15:41:23 (permalink)
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    Never seen it.


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    Re:Dear Mr Sonar 2012/09/14 15:41:42 (permalink)
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    markyzno


    tested.Fine. Its ONLY Sonar that gives my system any kind crud. Its not hardware. Its Sonar.
    OK, I just loaded SONAR on my system.


    No crashes.


    It's *not* SONAR, I can tell you that.

    Oh wait.


    It is SONAR.


    It's SONAR on *your* system that does it.


    My bad.



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