revnice1
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Dedicated bus for drums?
I've read that you should send your drums to their own bus.
I have all the necessary effects in the drum tracks and all the drum tracks in their own folder. I can raise or lower the whole sub-mix by clicking that little triangle.
So why would I want a dedicated bus for drums?
Thanks - rev
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 14:23:25
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I use a dedicated bus to apply the same settings to all of them. I use FX on individual drum tracks only when I want those particular pieces of the kit to have different FX/settings than the other pieces. I use the drum bus to add a final compressor/limiter and final reverb and of course it's easier to control the overall volume of the drums from a bus than it is by groups.
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revnice1
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 14:52:50
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Beagle:
>same settings to all of them.
Thanks, that makes sense but I usually don't want that. I don't want snare reverb on the toms for example, maybe it's just the kit I use but toms and kick don't need anything.
Raising/lowering is easier from a bus!
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 15:12:31
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you might be missing the point a little..the bus creates a powerful sound on top of what you already have..for instance if you put all your effects on your drums then create a bus for the drums..it sounds almost like another kit..it thickens the whole sound and most of the time essential for professional mixes..thats how the pros do it.
so ask yourself..do you want a recording that sounds like you did it in your bedroom or a nice studio...im saying just look into the possiblilitys.
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 15:39:45
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revnice1
Beagle:
>same settings to all of them.
Thanks, that makes sense but I usually don't want that. I don't want snare reverb on the toms for example, maybe it's just the kit I use but toms and kick don't need anything.
Raising/lowering is easier from a bus!
actually, that was just a statement of reference and I shouldn't have said that I put reverb on the drum bus - one can, but I actually don't ("final reverb" actually goes on the reverb bus). I personally don't put reverb on the drum bus. i use sends from each of the tracks to a reverb bus for that. but I do use a compressor and/or limiter on the drum bus. that's the main thing I use it for - that and volume automation of the entire kit.
post edited by Beagle - 2011/05/13 15:41:15
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 15:46:22
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I can raise or lower the whole sub-mix by clicking that little triangle. The problem here of course is when you haveany automation on your individual tracks. Quick-grouping them the way you're doing it, any overall volume change wouldn't include the tracks with envelopes on them. Using a bus negates this problem, quicky & easily and you get all the excellent benefits as suggested by Beagle & chuckebaby.
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 15:49:42
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chuckebaby
you might be missing the point a little..the bus creates a powerful sound on top of what you already have..for instance if you put all your effects on your drums then create a bus for the drums..it sounds almost like another kit..it thickens the whole sound and most of the time essential for professional mixes..thats how the pros do it.
so ask yourself..do you want a recording that sounds like you did it in your bedroom or a nice studio...im saying just look into the possiblilitys.
That depends on how the OP means "send your drums." If he means inserting Track Sends, you're right that it can thicken the sounds. However, it takes more than simply duplicating your drums to make them sound "professional..." If he means directing the Track Outs to the bus, it won't duplicate. I direct them all to one bus, just to have an overall volume control or FX bin.
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 19:39:11
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I use a dedicated "Drums" bus also (that is sent to the "Master" bus).....However, I also have sub-busses set up for toms and overheads, and another for parallel compression (fed by track sends off the Kick and Snare tracks) that feed the "Drums" bus directly.. I like to use different compression/EQ settings for different parts of the kit, with the option of soloing or muting the entire drum mix via the "Drums" bus.
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/13 20:12:05
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IMO drums should always be on a dedicated bus because once they're mixed within the kit itself, you can thereafter treat the drums as a single instrument in the larger mix. It also makes it easier if you're going to be sending stems out for someone else to master.
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/17 00:38:50
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revnice1
I've read that you should send your drums to their own bus.
I have all the necessary effects in the drum tracks and all the drum tracks in their own folder. I can raise or lower the whole sub-mix by clicking that little triangle.
So why would I want a dedicated bus for drums?
Thanks - rev
Reiterating what Bitflipper said - There are instances when you need to automate the over-all volume of the kit as one instrument. With a bus, you can do that in a clean, slick way, and of course the volume changes remain part of your project. RB
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Re:Dedicated bus for drums?
2011/05/17 00:59:55
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I agree with a "drum Buss" for all the reasons stated, but will always leave the kick drum as a separate " instrument" on it's own.
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