De-esser??

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2012/09/19 06:32:46 (permalink)

De-esser??

Does sonar x1 studio come with a de-esser, i was curious if it might of been under a different name in the standard plugins, but if not, what one do you use? that i can download or buy. I was suggested waves de-esser, but heard sonar dont support there plugins.

Plug EQ'ing the faults out just isnt as good imo, so suggestions / help would be appreciated.
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    Loptec
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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 06:42:40 (permalink)
    In producer there's a de-esser in the VX64 VocalStrip-effect..
    I don't know if you can buy this separate..

    There are many free VSTs out there though.
    I haven't tried these, but they've got a de-esser called SpitFissh

    http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=5

    Tell us what you think of it, if you try it :)



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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 06:48:39 (permalink)
    Spitfish is Ok, but it's only 32 bit, or so I believe.

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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 07:13:13 (permalink)
    One of the best De-esser is the: BT DEESSER DS-2S

    http://www.nomadfactory.com/products/bt_bundle/index.html

    But you should buy the whole bundle, all Nomad stuff is just great.


    Izotope Alloy is also good
    http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/alloy/
     
     
     and SPL.
    http://plugin-alliance.com/en/index.html


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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 08:45:43 (permalink)
    there is also a de-esser in the VC- Vintage channel that works well.



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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 08:48:18 (permalink)
    A de-esser is a fancy name for a compressor. Itas works in the 3k to 6k range

    Any compressors can be set up and used as a de-esser. Just set the attack to a really fast msec time and then patch the side chain as the trigger for the processor. 

    After that,  you adjust the comprersssors threshold so the gain reduction will start starts when there is a transient problem.


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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 10:34:27 (permalink)
    The de-esser in the VX64 works good.
    It seems to be more than just a high-pass side-chained compressor.
    It seems to lower the sibilance while preserving the dynamic of the sibilance. 

    I wish they would make only the VX64 de-esser as a stand-alone for ProChannel or VST

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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 10:57:44 (permalink)
    CJaysMusic


    A de-esser is a fancy name for a compressor. Itas works in the 3k to 6k range

    Any compressors can be set up and used as a de-esser. Just set the attack to a really fast msec time and then patch the side chain as the trigger for the processor. 

    After that,  you adjust the comprersssors threshold so the gain reduction will start starts when there is a transient problem.


    CJ


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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 10:57:46 (permalink)
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    One of the best De-esser is the: BT DEESSER DS-2S

    http://www.nomadfactory.com/products/bt_bundle/index.html

    But you should buy the whole bunde,l all Nomad stuff is just great. 
    I'm with Freddie on this one.  I've tried a bunch of de-essers including Waves (whose plugins work fine in Sonar, Nell!), and the Nomad Blue Tubes de-esser worked the best for me.  Left a smooth, natural vocal sound minus the excess sibilance. 
     
    Nomad has free demo versions of all their stuff, so anyone interested can try them for themselves.  I don't think everything in the bundle is a must-have, but there are several underrated gems, including their Pultec emu and Magnetic tape sim.
     
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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 11:12:15 (permalink)

    Sonitus Multiband is an excellent De-Esser:



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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 11:34:56 (permalink)
    Every time I see the word De esser I don't know whether or not to re do the vocals with a pop filter or take my cloths off 


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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 11:41:31 (permalink)

    thx..its stuff like this that makes me mindlessly browse the threads ... but now i gotta go play with this...

    Your very welcome


    Every time I see the word De esser I don't know whether or not to re do the vocals with a pop filter or take my cloths off  


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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 13:09:33 (permalink)
    I made the mistake years ago of buying a cheap but fancy-looking condenser mic.  It was the cause of most of my unwanted sibiliance back then.

    So, the point is, be wary of cheap condensers that are overly bright, or you may be fighting sibilance endlessly.

    That cheap mic now sits on a shelf with other junk just to create the illusion that I have a large mic selection.   In truth, I do almost everything with two mics.
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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 13:51:54 (permalink)

    Proper singing techniques and mic technique will eliminate most of that sort of problem before it starts and you have to try to fix it in the mix.

    To assist in keeping them at bay......

    I use a pop screen filter and EQ to tame the sibilants and..if one sneaks into the mix.....and if time permits, which it usually does, if the sibilants are particularly nasty..... I record it again or punch in a cleaner take. 



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    Re:De-esser?? 2012/09/19 14:17:33 (permalink)
    Sonitus Multiband - I have used quite a few De-essers, and this one works as well as any. Set the attack really fast and solo the band you're working on to listen - then narrow it down until you only affect the problem area.

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